UFC 149: Faber vs. Barao

Date: Saturday, July 21st
Preliminary Card (Facebook): 18:00 LP.net / 4:00pm PST / 7:00pm EST Facebook stream
Preliminary Card (FX): 19:00 LP.net / 5pm PST / 8pm EST
Main Card Time (PPV): 21:00 LP.net / 7pm PST / 10pm EST
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Faber and Barao's free fight videos vs. various opponents
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Main Card

Urijah Faber (26-5) vs. Renan Barao (28-1) (Interim UFC Bantamweight Championship)
Hector Lombard (31-2-1) vs. Tim Boetsch (15-4) (Middleweight)
Cheick Kongo (17-7-2) vs. Shawn Jordan (13-3) (Heavyweight)
Brian Ebersole (50-14-1) vs. James Head (8-2) (Welterweight)
Chris Clements (11-4) vs. Matt Riddle (6-3) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (FX)

Court McGee (14-2) vs. Nick Ring (12-1) (Middleweight)
Roland Delorme (8-1) vs. Francisco Rivera (8-2) (Bantamweight)
Ryan Jimmo (16-1) vs. Anthony Perosh (13-6) (Light Heavyweight)
Bryan Caraway (16-5) vs. Mitch Gagnon (8-1) (Bantamweight)

Preliminary Card (Facebook)

Antonio Carvalho (13-5) vs. Daniel Pineda (17-8) (Featherweight)
Mitch Clarke (9-1) vs. Anton Kuivanen (16-5) (Lightweight)

UFC 149 Injury List

- On April 24, due to a conflict with the UN Conference, the UFC Middleweight Championship bout between Anderson Silva and Chael Sonnen, which was originally scheduled to main event UFC 147 was moved to UFC 148 to serve as the new main event. Plans were then being made for Jose Aldo, who at the time was scheduled to defend his title at this event against an undetermined opponent, to headline UFC 147. However it was reported on April 28, 2012, that Aldo would remain on this card and defend his title against Erik Koch.
- The bout between Michael Bisping and Tim Boetsch, originally scheduled for UFC 148, was moved to this event to help bolster this (the UFC 149) fight card. However, Bisping was forced out of the bout with an injury and replaced by promotional newcomer Hector Lombard.
- Yoshihiro Akiyama was expected to face Thiago Alves at this event, but was forced to pull out of the fight due to injury and replaced by Siyar Bahadurzada. Then on June 1, Alves pulled out of the bout citing an injury. and was replaced by Chris Clements.
- Thiago Silva was expected to face Maurício Rua at the event. However, Silva was forced out of the bout with an injury and Rua was pulled from the event entirely, and will face Brandon Vera at UFC on Fox 4.
- On June 4, 2012 it was announced that the UFC signed former DREAM champion Bibiano Fernandes. He was expected to compete against Roland Delorme. However, on June 11, 2012 it was announced that Fernandes was removed from the event due to injury but was later announced that Ferandes had not signed with the UFC. Francisco Rivera has filled in to fight Delorme.
- On June 9, 2012 it was announced that UFC featherweight champion, Jose Aldo was removed from the event due to injury. No replacement has yet been named for his scheduled opponent, Erik Koch. As a result, the UFC Interim Bantamweight Championship fight between Urijah Faber and Renan Barao was re-scheduled as the main event of the fight.
- George Roop was scheduled to fight Antonio Carvalho, but on June 26th, Roop was forced out of the fight due to injury and replaced by Daniel Pineda.
- Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira was expected to face Cheick Kongo at the event. However, Nogueira pulled out of the bout, citing that an arm injury sustained in his last bout had not healed enough to resume the proper training and was replaced by Shawn Jordan.
- On June 30th, Siyar Bahadurzada was forced out of his fight against Chris Clements due to an injury. Bahadurzada was replaced by Matthew Riddle.
- Claude Patrick was expected to face James Head at the event. However, Patrick was forced out of the bout with an injury and replaced by Brian Ebersole.

Faber > Barao (Faber doesn't lose #1 contender fights, only title fights.)
Lombard > Boetsch (Boetsch could play it smart and take it into round 3 since Lombard has shown a sub-par gas tank before, but I think Lombard's power + Olympic Judo will be enough to keep it standing and TKO Boetsch.)
Jordan > Kongo (Watch Kongo's chin go bye bye. This will probably be KO of the night.)
Ebersole > Head
Clements > Riddle
Ring > McGee
Rivera > Delorme
Jimmo > Perosh (UD in a boring fight)
Caraway > Gagnon
Pineda > Carvalho
Kuivanen > Clarke

I like Faber. But sportsbooks seem to have Barao as favorite.

You say Faber doesnt #1 contender fights. I do not know much about Barao, can you post what type of fighter he is? And why you think Faber would win vs him. Any positives on Barao vs Faber?

I would always go with the one who doesnt rely on wrestling too much.
GNP LNP wrestlers = sc2
excellent strikers plus bjj = Broodwar

But what if he posseses GNP LNP wrestling and also excellent striking and bjj submissions?

^ If you know anything about Faber, you'll know he has good wrestling + boxing + speed + accuracy + guillotine choke + good chin (obv).

Knowing that, watch Barao's fight against Brad Pickett in the UFC, which you can see below:





I'm not saying the same Barao who fought Pickett will also show up to fight Faber, but, if he fights Faber like he did against Pickett, it will be an easy win for Faber.

Betting on Faber especially if he's the underdog is a good bet.

lol wtf infinite injury list

wut

i hope your joking about the faber doesint lose #contender fights. Well his opponent doesn't even lose fights and is close to a lock

bah another wrestler fish in a brazilian sport. ez win for the muay thai + bjj expert.
not putting any money on any wrestler who hasn't got at least frankie edgar or GSP standup to set up their wrestling

On July 16 2012 12:26 PuertoRican wrote: ^ If you know anything about Faber, you'll know he has good wrestling + boxing + speed + accuracy + guillotine choke + good chin (obv). Knowing that, watch Barao's fight against Brad Pickett in the UFC, which you can see below: I'm not saying the same Barao who fought Pickett will also show up to fight Faber, but, if he fights Faber like he did against Pickett, it will be an easy win for Faber. Betting on Faber especially if he's the underdog is a good bet.

Cool. But you cannot base it all just on Barao's last fight. Can you give me more info on Barao on why he's the sportsbooks favor him? Ths sportsbooks surely see something you dont.

On July 16 2012 17:32 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 12:26 PuertoRican wrote: ^ If you know anything about Faber, you'll know he has good wrestling + boxing + speed + accuracy + guillotine choke + good chin (obv). Knowing that, watch Barao's fight against Brad Pickett in the UFC, which you can see below: I'm not saying the same Barao who fought Pickett will also show up to fight Faber, but, if he fights Faber like he did against Pickett, it will be an easy win for Faber. Betting on Faber especially if he's the underdog is a good bet. Cool. But you cannot base it all just on Barao's last fight. Can you give me more info on Barao on why he's the sportsbooks favor him? Ths sportsbooks surely see something you dont.

I'm not the end all be all of MMA picks/guesses, but I believe in Faber in this fight. I honestly don't see how he's the underdog, especially with how he's looked better in his last couple of fights. If Faber wasn't improving his game then I could understand, but he is improving.

Aside from Scott Jorgensen, whom I think is overrated, who has Barao beaten that was notable? He won via Decision against a serverely washed up Cole Escovedo, Decision win vs. Jorgensen, looked bad in his stand up vs. Pickett while Pickett was only throwing 1 punch at a time in hopes to land his signature "One Punch".

Faber could have beaten, and did beat some of the same guys that Barao beat in the WEC/UFC. The majority of Barao's wins are vs. random Brazilians that nobody has heard of.

Lastly, if you watch Barao's fights in the UFC, you will have seen that he hasn't looked as impressive as his record and hype that people are putting around him. Obviously he's good and is more dangerous than Cruz, but he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think that he can beat Faber.

On July 16 2012 08:55 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: But what if he posseses GNP LNP wrestling and also excellent striking and bjj submissions?

well then he would be GSP or John Jones, maybe Frankie Edgar to some degree. the rest of em are crocops
btw he doesnt possess excellent striking, body type is thick and reach is kinda shit. kinda quick on his feet but yeah im not a huge fan of wrestlers lol

thing is in around 2006-2008 mat hughes types dominated bjj guys who were either not that strong and had mediocre standup, bj penns were very rare so strong wrestlers were the perfect counter, now where bjj superstars are very unpredictable and super athletic and strong, these ohio boy farmer guys have disappeared and rightfully so. unless faber had some sick revamp of his style i dont see him winning vs anyone other than guys who have zero shot the title, much like griffin vs ortiz vs franklin in LHW

On July 16 2012 17:57 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2012 17:32 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote:   On July 16 2012 12:26 PuertoRican wrote: ^ If you know anything about Faber, you'll know he has good wrestling + boxing + speed + accuracy + guillotine choke + good chin (obv). Knowing that, watch Barao's fight against Brad Pickett in the UFC, which you can see below: I'm not saying the same Barao who fought Pickett will also show up to fight Faber, but, if he fights Faber like he did against Pickett, it will be an easy win for Faber. Betting on Faber especially if he's the underdog is a good bet. Cool. But you cannot base it all just on Barao's last fight. Can you give me more info on Barao on why he's the sportsbooks favor him? Ths sportsbooks surely see something you dont. I'm not the end all be all of MMA picks/guesses, but I believe in Faber in this fight. I honestly don't see how he's the underdog, especially with how he's looked better in his last couple of fights. If Faber wasn't improving his game then I could understand, but he is improving. Aside from Scott Jorgensen, whom I think is overrated, who has Barao beaten that was notable? He won via Decision against a serverely washed up Cole Escovedo, Decision win vs. Jorgensen, looked bad in his stand up vs. Pickett while Pickett was only throwing 1 punch at a time in hopes to land his signature "One Punch". Faber could have beaten, and did beat some of the same guys that Barao beat in the WEC/UFC. The majority of Barao's wins are vs. random Brazilians that nobody has heard of. Lastly, if you watch Barao's fights in the UFC, you will have seen that he hasn't looked as impressive as his record and hype that people are putting around him. Obviously he's good and is more dangerous than Cruz, but he hasn't shown me anything that makes me think that he can beat Faber.

Yeah. Honestly I want Faber to win. I want Cruz vs Faber 2 to happen.

On July 16 2012 16:58 Target-x17 wrote: i hope your joking about the faber doesint lose #contender fights. Well his opponent doesn't even lose fights and is close to a lock

Faber has been fighting the best or near the best for the last 6+ years. Barao has fought 1 top 10 fighter in his entire career in Jorgensen.

I think Barao is probably a slight favorite, but Faber is still very good. He's only lost to the best of the best. I wouldn't be surprised to see Faber win here. Barao is still untested against high level competition.

Finally they host UFC event in my city and was a great great card now its total crap lol

did a little research on Barao. if one says that Faber is gonna win vs Barao simply cos he doesnt lose #1 contender fights is kinda dumb. Sorry.

money is easy in MMA betting when wrestlers are involved haha

Faber FTW!

War Kongo!

On July 17 2012 12:05 TalentedTom wrote: War Kongo!

On July 17 2012 07:15 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: did a little research on Barao. if one says that Faber is gonna win vs Barao simply cos he doesnt lose #1 contender fights is kinda dumb. Sorry.

On July 16th, you said "I do not know much about Barao".
On July 17th, you "did a little research" on Barao, which then leads you to believe he's somehow better than Faber now.

I shouldn't need to expand on how easily you're swayed, and hope you don't put any real money bets on MMA matches.

I am easily swayed cos I dont have any attatchment on these fighters. And FYI I like Faber to win this. I almost agreed to your argument about Faber until I saw clips of Barao. He is quick and very athletic and for Faber to win this cos 'he doesnt lose #1 contender fights'. That is dumb. Yes dumb.

Also when sportsbooks put a line out there, I tend to give weight to that cos obviously they see something that you dont. A sportsbook is a business, do you think they'd give you an edge?

That said, I think Faber has a chance cos he could knock this guy out given a clean shot (if he's lucky). If Faber didnt have that knockout power, he has lesser of a chance than he does now.

Oh and in this case, I am not swayed. I am just saying your 'cos he doesnt lose #1 contender fights' is lol.

Not a walk in the park for Faber given how some people think how good he is. This Barao could be another Silva or Jones for all we know. We'll see. A part of me wants to see Cruz vs Barao for the belt.

faber is a wrestler. i hate wrestlers in MMA. Barao wins this through decision.

Countdown to UFC 149: Faber vs. Barao
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Countdown to UFC 149: Lombard vs. Boetsch
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Countdown to UFC 149: Kongo vs. Jordan
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Free Fight: Renan Barao vs Cole Escovedo
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Obviously I'm not taking Faber just because he doesn't lose #1 contender fights, that comment is like saying "I take the black guy over the white guy to win the boxing match", it's just a given.

Directed at anyone on LP with more than 1k posts: I'll put $20 on Faber to win + whatever the odds he's being given at the time of our bet. Payments can be done via PayPal.

25 for your 20. You got moneybookers?

was originally on barao in this fight. started liking faber more but now im back on barao. i think hes just too good for faber. in a 3 round fight i think barao is like -250 here, 5 round is def closer. im just gonna avoid betting it cause i dont have a strong feeling and i see lots of guys on each side. but one of the guys i respect the most is strong on barao and i trust him a lot

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On July 17 2012 23:06 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: 25 for your 20. You got moneybookers?

Sounds good.

I just made a moneybookers account right now.

Ok its on.

Edit: Just so you know, UFC fights here are played on a 30 minute tape delay. I wont be posting here until after 30 minutes of the fight. Streams you say? No, I hate streams. Watching sports in your computer is just lol here cos internet is too slow for streaming. I only do that if I dont have a choice.

On July 17 2012 22:45 whamm! wrote: faber is a wrestler. i hate wrestlers in MMA. Barao wins this through decision.

YEA hendo sucks, so does jon jones, and urijah faber.......

Feels like Barao's got this. Not really given it much thought but he just looks ridicioulusly good.

Yeah feels like it. But sometimes it feels like Faber. Faber is +171 at Pinnacle, very tempting.

UFC 149: Faber vs Barao Pre-fight Press Conference
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UFC 149- Urijah Faber: "Anyone With A Finish In Zuffa Is More Dangerous Than Dominick Cruz"
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UFC 149: Urijah Faber on Fighting Renan Barao - Pre-Fight Interview
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Renan Barao Is Not Ready To "Learn From A Loss" To Urijah Faber at
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UFC 149: Hector Lombard on Fighting Boetsch + "Deserving" A Title
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UFC 149: Tim Boetsch on Fighting Lombard, Bisping's Injury +
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UFC 149: Cheick Kongo on Shawn Jordan Fight, Rampage, Dropping to
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UFC 149: Shawn Jordan Says "I'm A Little Mad I'm Not Big Nog"
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UFC 149's Ryan Jimmo on Being The White Guy on the Blackzilian team
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UFC 149's Nick Ring on Fighting TUF 11 Rival Court McGee Again
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UFC 149's Court McGee: Glad To Have Another Shot At TUF Rival Nick
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UFC 149: Brian Ebersole on Fighting James Head 1 Month After
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lookin forward to hangin out with master thong/ taking all his money @ casino 2 days after faber win. EZ MONEY.

On July 16 2012 12:26 PuertoRican wrote: ^ If you know anything about Faber, you'll know he has good wrestling + boxing + speed + accuracy + guillotine choke + good chin (obv). Knowing that, watch Barao's fight against Brad Pickett in the UFC, which you can see below: I'm not saying the same Barao who fought Pickett will also show up to fight Faber, but, if he fights Faber like he did against Pickett, it will be an easy win for Faber. Betting on Faber especially if he's the underdog is a good bet.

Looked like Barao pretty much owned this fight. I think his build/frame will cause some problems for Faber's game plan with all else being equal. I haven't seen Barao much, but I'd say Faber is a better athlete and that will make the difference. Seems like an easy bet on Faber.

UFC 149 weigh-in starts in 1 hour 25 minutes.

you guys realize barao has won 30 fights in a row and hasn't lost in 7 years right? No to mention he's only 25 years old. Seems like insta call right here.

+ brazilian = hacked

Kongo = 6'4, 231 pounds. (Kongo even wore his shoes and that big African beaded necklace with a metal pendant on it.)
Jordan = 6'0, 250 pounds.

UFC 149 weigh-in photos: http://mmajunkie.com/news/29804/ufc-1...os-an-mmajunkie-com-image-gallery.mma





Urijah Faber (135) vs. Renan Barao (135)
Hector Lombard (185.5) vs. Tim Boetsch (186)
Cheick Kongo (231) vs. Shawn Jordan (250)
Brian Ebersole (171) vs. James Head (170)
Chris Clements (170) vs. Matt Riddle (170.8)
Court McGee (185.5) vs. Nick Ring (185)
Roland Delorme (135) vs. Francisco Rivera (136)
Anthony Perosh (205) vs. Ryan Jimmo (205.5)
Bryan Caraway (135.5) vs. Mitch Gagnon (135)
Antonio Carvalho (145) vs. Daniel Pineda (145)
Mitch Clarke (155) vs. Anton Kuivanen (156)

On July 20 2012 14:48 K40Cheddar wrote: you guys realize barao has won 30 fights in a row and hasn't lost in 7 years right? No to mention he's only 25 years old. Seems like insta call right here. + brazilian = hacked

Most fight fans don't compensate for competition.

Yes barao is on a 30 fight win streak, but all but two have been against completely random low level competition. It's easy to look good fighting non top competition. Shit look how good faber looks when he faces fighters like mizugaki & bowels. Both much better than 99% of the people on baraos record.

I'm pretty confident if Faber fought the same opponents he'd be undefeated as well.


Not saying barao isn't the real deal. He might kill faber. But really there isn't enough information on him yet to make a very solid read imo. We'll know a lot more about him saturday.

I personally think it'll be a really close tough fight. Hoping Barao looks great though, because he's got the style to give Cruz a really tough challenge.

What do you guys think would be some good parlays here?
Going to make 4-5 parlays with mostly favourites.
Then one Ring, Kongo, Boetsch, Faber for the lulz. 44.35x for the win.

anyone care to bet on Faber? I'll take Barao. min 100usd bets only pokerstars.

this is like free money on faber with these odds.

i think barao looks like a terrible version of Aldo in the striking department and Faber does have a very good chance of beating Barao. i just hate wrestlers so much i want them to keep losing so that wrestlers just stay away from MMA and just to the WWE or the Olympics lol. still i think Faber will lose this fight and apart from a couple of good takedowns he will get KTFO or TKOed here coz refs just stop fights way too much when someone is peppering some dude on the ground unlike the old days.

What would be the vig free odds for Faber - Barao? I might be interested to bet with whamm!.

im not too sure about odds in this fight, if its not too ridiculous ill bet for sure.

On July 21 2012 00:35 whamm! wrote: im not too sure about odds in this fight, if its not too ridiculous ill bet for sure.

You said you have 399$ on PS, we bet 100$ on Fantasy vs Jangbi, so if you lose you'll have 299 left.

So what would you say for 100$ on Faber to win said 299$? Just hustling lol

eh, i didnt know the odds were that bad for Barao, i like the OSL bets more since I love BW more than I hate wresters lol.
might take a rain check on this wth those odds

so unpredictable fight... I can see Faber winning by points, taking Barao down and I can see Barao winning by knockout.

Barao has a crazy aggressive style, he is always trying some risky spinning kicks and elbows that could cost him the fight or the win if landed.

I would bet on Barao if he had better odds, but as it is, I prefer to put my money on something else...

On July 21 2012 00:27 whamm! wrote: i think barao looks like a terrible version of Aldo in the striking department and Faber does have a very good chance of beating Barao. i just hate wrestlers so much i want them to keep losing so that wrestlers just stay away from MMA and just to the WWE or the Olympics lol. still i think Faber will lose this fight and apart from a couple of good takedowns he will get KTFO or TKOed here coz refs just stop fights way too much when someone is peppering some dude on the ground unlike the old days.

Faber

Wins = 26
KO/TKO = 7
Submission = 14
Decision = 4
Disqualification = 1

Barao

Wins = 28
KO/TKO = 6
Submission = 13
Decision = 9

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This fight is closer than you think. There was value with Faber at +171 on Pinnacle yesterday. It is down to +161 now.

And I dont know how the lines opened at the sportbooks but I heard it was close.

Whamm, I think a fair bet on Barao would be 150 for Haivan's 100. This is closer than you realize.

On July 21 2012 01:16 PuertoRican wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 00:27 whamm! wrote: i think barao looks like a terrible version of Aldo in the striking department and Faber does have a very good chance of beating Barao. i just hate wrestlers so much i want them to keep losing so that wrestlers just stay away from MMA and just to the WWE or the Olympics lol. still i think Faber will lose this fight and apart from a couple of good takedowns he will get KTFO or TKOed here coz refs just stop fights way too much when someone is peppering some dude on the ground unlike the old days. Faber Wins = 26 KO/TKO = 7 Submission = 14 Decision = 4 Disqualification = 1 Barao Wins = 28 KO/TKO = 6 Submission = 13 Decision = 9 + Show Spoiler +

Faber looks weird in that pic.

On July 21 2012 00:27 whamm! wrote: i think barao looks like a terrible version of Aldo in the striking department and Faber does have a very good chance of beating Barao. i just hate wrestlers so much i want them to keep losing so that wrestlers just stay away from MMA and just to the WWE or the Olympics lol. still i think Faber will lose this fight and apart from a couple of good takedowns he will get KTFO or TKOed here coz refs just stop fights way too much when someone is peppering some dude on the ground unlike the old days.

Nope. I would say Aldo is better tho. But terrible is not the roght word. Barao is just too good to be called a 'terrible' version of Aldo.

And again this fight is 50/50, Faber doesnt really have a good chance, its more like close to a coinflip.

But then again, Barao could be something like Silva or Jones in his weight class. We'll see.

Prelims start in 2 hours: http://www.facebook.com/UFC/app_247211121995467

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Chris Fields vs. John Phillips
Jack Mason vs. Danny Roberts
Leigh Cohoon vs. Aaron Wilkinson
Brett Sizeland vs. Denniston Sutherland
Dale Hardiman vs. Ido Pariente
Kris Edwards vs. Brian Hyslop

If you're bored, Cage Warriors 48 is live right now. http://cagewarriors.mmajunkie.com/

The only person I heard of on the card is Aaron Wilkinson, but this will give me something to watch before UFC starts.

had a small bet on Carvalho as well as a small bet on Faber

I'm sad that Pineda lost, he seemed like a diamond in the rough. His speed was exposed in his past two fights.

He fought 4 times in 2012 so far, so I think he should take a break and fix his speed and striking technique.

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Sick 1 punch KO by Ryan "Big Deal" Jimmo.

Perosh made a sick face when he hit the floor, cant wait till that gets put into a .gif image.

Felt bad for Perosh that looked bad.

That was ROLF

My god, I get sick of the UFC hype train sometimes.

The UFC literally started with saying Barao was on a 28 win streak, then 29, then 30, and now they just showed him walking into the arena and showed him as having a 31 fight win streak.

Barao has fought 30 times, and is on a 28 fight win streak if you don't count the 1 NC.

prediction: 5 rounds, unanimous decision, Barao.

faber with ez

Sideshow Bob just got knocked the fuck out.

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Main Card: http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/61119/1/uf...aber-vs-barao-live-stream-online.html

AND WE ARE LIVE

Bout damn time Riddle gets a finish, it was 2 years since his last finish.

WAR EBERSOLE!

barao by wild strikes and retard ref stops the fight prematurely again.

who u guys have winning coming into 3rd? i got head over ebersole 20-18

That was fucking weird.

That "fight" could have gone either way, but I was hoping Head would win, even though I picked Ebersole.
Ebersole needs to be taught a lesson and be given a loss, so he'll start fighting more seriously.

Sure, Ebersole can submit a lot of people. but he has terrible striking, take downs, etc. He's pretty much only good if you give him your back or he's on top.

stream link?

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/61119/1/uf...aber-vs-barao-live-stream-online.html

that link is too dirty for me to even get it to work, all good thanks though

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/61119/18/u...aber-vs-barao-live-stream-online.html

Seems that Lombard guy did a Savior

Lombard needs to lose muscle and go to 170 right away.

Ryan Daut ‏@rcdaut
Hector by decision. Hector/daley/caraway parlay. $$$$$$$

Ryan Daut ‏@rcdaut
wait what?

ALL I DO IS WIN WIN

AND THEY STAY DOWWNNNNNN

UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN

wrestlers




vs

everyone else in MMA now

does Faber even have a coach? wtf not a single takedown?

he tried to win in a stand up fight, that's retarded

all the canadians had faber +150

Sucks for the people who actually paid for this card, the prelims were pretty damn good, and the main card sucked bad aside from Matt Riddle's fight, which is weird since he's usually one of the worst fighters to watch.

Barao vs. Faber = they stayed busy, but boring fight for the most part. (Unanimous Decision)
Boetsch vs. Lombard = zZzZz (Split Decision)
Kongo vs. Jordan = hug fest, both were tired as fuck after it ended, with Kongo laying flat on his back due to being out of breath. (Unanimous Decision)
Ebersole vs. Head = Ebersole looked terrible and Head didn't know how to adapt. (Split Decision)
Riddle vs. Clements = Should have ended in the first round if the referee didn't assume Riddle kicked Clements in the nuts. (Submission)

On July 21 2012 23:08 Nazgul wrote: Lombard needs to lose muscle and go to 170 right away. Ryan Daut ‏@rcdaut Hector by decision. Hector/daley/caraway parlay. $$$$$$$ Ryan Daut ‏@rcdaut wait what?

i was half watching while playing poker but i didnt see boetsch land a single decent strike besides those two knees in the 3rd. did anyone think boetsch won?

Lombard landed more punches, Boetsch landed more low kicks.

Boetsch was hurt during round 2 or so, somehow Lombard's big toe skimmed off of Boetsch's ribs and hurt him, but Lombard got on top and didn't throw a lot of punches, only a few.

Lombard lost that fight cuz he used his same strategy as always, except this time he couldn't KO his opponent so it made him look like all he was doing was standing there, which made Boetsch look like the aggressor.

Ship iiiitttt!!!

I figured out how to put money on my account through Mazooma or whatever. I just need your info now to ship the $20.

Unless BILAT_POWER!!! is recognized on Moneybookers.

btw, Barao looked better than Faber, but, Faber didn't look as good as he did in his last fight, maybe more timid this time, possibly cuz he knew his opponent was a much more dangerous fighter than Bowles, dunno.

I don't think he'll finish Cruz, just like he couldn't finish Faber. Barao will need to do a lot more vs. Cruz to win the belt, since they give the champion more love on the score cards it's the other guy trying to win the belt.

I was expecting more from Faber tbh. Especially at the last two rounds.

Anyway seeing how Barao fought, I dont mind Cruz vs Barao for the belt.

On July 22 2012 00:45 PuertoRican wrote: Barao will need to do a lot more vs. Cruz to win the belt, since they give the champion more love on the score cards it's the other guy trying to win the belt.

I thought the fight was pretty decent, but maybe I'm biased because I was cheering for Barao. It played out kinda similar to Shogun/Machida I. I don't agree with having to do more, though. All the rounds he won were pretty clear imo. I also had it 50-45.

Yeah the fight was ok. But vs Cruz? He'll need to do more. Especially in the final two rounds vs Cruz, you cant risk going easy vs him.

cruz will def be a better fight. the guy is better with is standup and is not a wrestler. lol
if he has a wrestling base he doesnt really rely on it too much to win.

Some wrestlers dont really rely on their wrestling, like Jones, Henderson and yeah, Faber.

cruz will def be a better fight. the guy is better with is standup and is not a wrestler. lol
if he has a wrestling base he doesnt really rely on it too much to win.

Some wrestlers dont really rely on their wrestling, like Jones, Henderson and yeah, Faber.

Cruz is a wrestler/boxer just like Faber, they just have different styles.

Barao is more technical than them both, but both Cruz/Faber have good movement and can take punishment, so finishing either of them wont be easy, as we saw tonight.

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Barao vs. Faber Official UFC Statistics.
http://blog.fightmetric.com/2012/07/barao-vs-faber-official-ufc-statistics.html

very rare that wrestlers dont rely on wrestling points. Jones and Hendo are a handful of those guys.since they possess KO power. Faber's standup is mediocre at best that's why his wins are mostly GNP and wrestlefucking opponents.with oints ala John Fitch.

On July 22 2012 01:45 whamm! wrote: very rare that wrestlers dont rely on wrestling points. Jones and Hendo are a handful of those guys.since they possess KO power. Faber's standup is mediocre at best that's why his wins are mostly GNP and wrestlefucking opponents.with oints ala John Fitch.

1. You keep posting false statements, so I'm not sure if you're actually trolling or not.
2. Lighter weight classes like flyweight, bantamweight, and featherweight, don't have as many KO's/TKO's as the bigger weight classes.
3. Wrestling is the best tool to have in MMA, but isn't the only thing you should know.
4. Faber is known for having some of the better boxing in the lower weight classes. He either TKO's them, or stuns them with boxing and then submits them, as you can see below by his finish-percentage when compared to others.
5. I've never heard/read anyone see Faber is a point fighter, in the Bantamweight division, that would go to Dominick Cruz.
6. When you're talking about the top 5 of any UFC weight class, people aren't just wrestlers or strikers, they also have other arsenal in their game to keep the fight where they want it, Chael Sonnen is the exception.


Cruz
Wins - 19
By knockout - 6
By submission - 1
By decision - 12

Barao

Wins - 29
By knockout - 6
By submission - 13
By decision - 10

Faber

Wins - 26
By knockout - 7
By submission - 14
By decision - 4
By disqualification - 1

Whamm has a point tho. Some guys who use mostly wrestling are kinda boring to watch.

Cant wait for Cruz vs Barao. Cruz's unorthodox style would be fun to watch vs Barao's Aldoesque style.

On July 22 2012 00:05 PuertoRican wrote: Sucks for the people who actually paid for this card, the prelims were pretty damn good, and the main card sucked bad aside from Matt Riddle's fight, which is weird since he's usually one of the worst fighters to watch.

Prelims were as good as main card was bad. I was fortunate enough to record and watch prelims second. The McGhee Ring fight was a nice finale.

Whats the next fight with a belt on the line? Henderson vs Edgar right? Cant wait.

Tho I really like Edgar, I think Henderson is going to knock his teeth in.

On July 22 2012 00:18 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On July 21 2012 23:08 Nazgul wrote: Lombard needs to lose muscle and go to 170 right away. Ryan Daut ‏@rcdaut Hector by decision. Hector/daley/caraway parlay. $$$$$$$ Ryan Daut ‏@rcdaut wait what? i was half watching while playing poker but i didnt see boetsch land a single decent strike besides those two knees in the 3rd. did anyone think boetsch won?

Yeah he deserved that win after a disappointing performance from Lombard. Thats what I was hoping for at least.

dominik cruz is the most exciting fighter imo

Yeah. I wonder what the lines would be vs Barao. Close to even?

I'd pick Cruz over Barao. Cruz just has a better overall game than Barao, Even if it goes to the judges I feel Cruz takes it.

cruz would definitely be favored. cruz has been in a lot more competitive fights and beat faber down convincingly in their last fight (of many). barao just kinda did some kicking and airballed every punch for 5 rounds. I'd set this line at cruz -140/barao +129

Yup. Im 50/50 on those two. But leaning on cruz as well. We'll see who has better value when the lines are out.

Also, if there has ever been a time to bet on brandon vera I would say it's now. +300 vs washed up shogun looks good to me

you know what that means though

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Nope. Wont be willing to bet on Vera. He's gonna lose.

I'd be rooting for him tho.

If Vera isnt on a slump tho, thats a good bet.

Thinking about it. I'd be willing to bet for fun. My 5 against someone's 20 on vera vs rua. Me vera.

Ok my 10 for soneones 20, thats good value. But offer good only for the Puertorican.

LOL Khan

On July 22 2012 04:29 Minion wrote: LOL Khan

LMAO

what i tell u booooooooooooys?

But seriously my favorite fighter was on this and I didnt watch thats how much this card suckeeeeeeed and I was confirmed by it.

Sick shitty card.

Here's part of why:

The only fighter originally planned to fight on the card and actually fight in it was Cheick Kongo and
even he was injured and described the pain in his shoulders throughout the fight on a scale from zero to ten as
"7-8.... 8.5"

MMA is just a sick sport with outlandish expectations from fans. Training is very brutal and injury prone. I would not be surprised if the UFC starts losing money real soon coz honestly UFC fans are very impatient and critical (myself included obv)

I'm rooting for Vera to win, but I'd never put any money on him vs. a top 7 opponent. He's a gatekeeper at best, and probably did better years ago at heavyweight cuz heavyweights have less skill and the heavyweight scene was soft back when he was considered a rising prospect, although I didn't see his earlier fights when people thought he was good.

On July 22 2012 10:41 whamm! wrote: MMA is just a sick sport with outlandish expectations from fans. Training is very brutal and injury prone. I would not be surprised if the UFC starts losing money real soon coz honestly UFC fans are very impatient and critical (myself included obv)

Yeah I don't have a problem with people who simply have frivolous expectations of fighters per se,
I have a problem with the fuckfaces who 'boo' for an entire event that they decided to purchase
without researching its potential.

Would anyone do this after they bought tickets to see some bands? No, they would be escorted out of the area.

I mean they have every "right" to boo if someone is behaving absolutely unacceptably but to boo someone for
celebrating too hard after winning the championship belt? Fucking ace Canada(ian crowd).

Video: Ryan Jimmo blasts Anthony Perosh at UFC 149, ties record for fastest knockout ever.
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/7/22/317...-149-7-second-knockout-record-calgary

Perosh after he got KO`ed.
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Faber's broken rib that he got in round 1 vs. Barao's knee.
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looks like crocop

lmao

On July 22 2012 11:54 taco wrote: Show nested quote + On July 22 2012 10:41 whamm! wrote: MMA is just a sick sport with outlandish expectations from fans. Training is very brutal and injury prone. I would not be surprised if the UFC starts losing money real soon coz honestly UFC fans are very impatient and critical (myself included obv) Yeah I don't have a problem with people who simply have frivolous expectations of fighters per se, I have a problem with the fuckfaces who 'boo' for an entire event that they decided to purchase without researching its potential. Would anyone do this after they bought tickets to see some bands? No, they would be escorted out of the area. I mean they have every "right" to boo if someone is behaving absolutely unacceptably but to boo someone for celebrating too hard after winning the championship belt? Fucking ace Canada(ian crowd).

We're all sheep, people will keep watching MMA as long as they market it well. We dont have anything else to do in the world except to be entertained and be amused (distracted). While those ultra rich fucks suck the life out of all of us like vampires.

too bad they dont make any money off me DLing their stuff
me:1
ultra rich fucks: 0

amen to that. lolol

You cant escape that fact. Just saying.

And they want you to download all their stuff. They want all of us watching/listening/playing with all their stuff for free sitting on our asses the whole day until we're too old to do shit that matters.

I'm guessing Faber didn't go hard for a take down because he had even more of a disadvantage on the ground not to mention Barao's defense was too much (and you also have to factor in all the leg kicks he took). I was expecting him to, though.

K... just saw the rib

Faber hasn't tried to use his wrestling for a long, long time. Don't know why there were so many people ITT referring to him as a wrestler.

He used to be a wrestler when he was dominate. He fell in love with his striking 4-5 years ago though.

Not saying that would of had any effect on the fight. Haven't watched it yet so can't comment.