AA vs fish 350bb deep FML

Submitted by : EvilSky

PokerStars Hand #82798439552: Holdem No Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2012/07/03 11:36:16 ET
Table Europa II 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Desultory ($991.20 in chips)
Seat 2: jinshan0809 ($1486.57 in chips)
Seat 3: theobqaz ($2867 in chips)
Seat 4: Password222 ($994.40 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($1771.53 in chips)
Seat 6: 2PairWind ($500.56 in chips)
jinshan0809: posts small blind $2
theobqaz: posts big blind $4
Desultory: posts the ante $0.80
jinshan0809: posts the ante $0.80
theobqaz: posts the ante $0.80
Password222: posts the ante $0.80
Hero: posts the ante $0.80
2PairWind: posts the ante $0.80

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Password222: raises $4 to $8
Hero: raises $24 to $32
2PairWind: folds
Desultory: folds
jinshan0809: calls $30
theobqaz: folds
Password222: calls $24

Flop (Pot : $100.00)

   
jinshan0809: checks
Password222: checks
Hero: bets $76
jinshan0809: calls $76
Password222: folds

Turn (Pot : $252.00)

   
jinshan0809: checks
Hero: bets $188
jinshan0809: raises $188 to $376
Hero: calls $188

River (Pot : $1,004.00)

   
jinshan0809: bets $1001.77 and is all-in
Hero: ???

I'm not a cg player but I'd say this is basically a bluff or nuts kind of thing.
I like the fold here though, he might have JJ or 99.
Adxd maybe?
The min raise on the turn seems to be one of those things fish do with the nuts.. then again would he raise with a big hand?

From a micro stakes player's point of view, where there are tons of fish, it looks like a turn fold, although I know it's very hard to make one. Call flop, check/min-raise turn is a monster almost always and it is basically inevitable that the fish will ship on the river. If, however, he's somehow miraculously bluffing on the turn, then I doubt he'll continue to bluff on the river. Especially this big.

easiest call in the world vs this guy.

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/975005
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/976684


vs a random fish i will probably min3bet the turn since i have position, then check the river if they call and check it back, which a fish will do 90% of the time. it puts them into a decision where they should 4bet jam turn with all their good hands but they never do it because in the face of aggression vs aggression, almost all the time they will revert to passive stuff like slowplaying.

edit: if it's not clear enough, this way loses less money vs monsters and still gains value vs all their semi bluff hands they raise turn with.

Lol wtf Stroggoz?

evil please tell us you clicked call

On July 03 2012 17:30 Stroggoz wrote: easiest call in the world vs this guy. http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/975005 http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/976684 vs a random fish i will probably min3bet the turn since i have position, then check the river if they call and check it back, which a fish will do 90% of the time. it puts them into a decision where they should 4bet jam turn with all their good hands but they never do it because in the face of aggression vs aggression, almost all the time they will revert to passive stuff like slowplaying. edit: if it's not clear enough, this way loses less money vs monsters and still gains value vs all their semi bluff hands they raise turn with.

this is preety strong evidence lol

wow lol, please tell me you called!

ufff I think Im gonna take a few days off poker, later guys :-/

seriously its an autocall vs this guy

LOLLLLL

On July 04 2012 06:36 okyougosu wrote: seriously its an autocall vs this guy

omg lol wtf snap call lol


... like it is that easy w/o history

what i don't understand is if he plays this bad... how's he stacking for 3x - 4x buyins???

it seems like he's doing well but will donk it off afterwards?

On July 03 2012 11:07 EvilSky wrote: Submitted by : EvilSky PokerStars Hand #82798439552: Holdem No Limit ($2/$4 USD) - 2012/07/03 11:36:16 ET Table Europa II 6-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: Desultory ($991.20 in chips) Seat 2: jinshan0809 ($1486.57 in chips) Seat 3: theobqaz ($2867 in chips) Seat 4: Password222 ($994.40 in chips) Seat 5: Hero ($1771.53 in chips) Seat 6: 2PairWind ($500.56 in chips) jinshan0809: posts small blind $2 theobqaz: posts big blind $4 Desultory: posts the ante $0.80 jinshan0809: posts the ante $0.80 theobqaz: posts the ante $0.80 Password222: posts the ante $0.80 Hero: posts the ante $0.80 2PairWind: posts the ante $0.80 Holecards Dealt to Hero Password222: raises $4 to $8 Hero: raises $24 to $32 2PairWind: folds Desultory: folds jinshan0809: calls $30 theobqaz: folds Password222: calls $24 Flop (Pot : $100.00)     jinshan0809: checks Password222: checks Hero: bets $76 jinshan0809: calls $76 Password222: folds Turn (Pot : $252.00)     jinshan0809: checks Hero: bets $188 jinshan0809: raises $188 to $376 Hero: calls $188 River (Pot : $1,004.00)     jinshan0809: bets $1001.77 and is all-in Hero: ??? Guy is a 45/27 Chinese fish

i think i'd snap here and not really think too much of it...asian degenerate fish are the best kinds of fish ;D

Interesting hand...lol hope you called

Haven't posted here for a while...is online poker legal in China now?

--- Nuked ---

i will shove the turn :$

lol cmon man wtf just when I forgot about this hand... I was annoyed for days after this , kept seeing stroggoz hhs with this guy cramming 4 buy ins with third pair over and over

^ lol

U HAS ACES BRO

rofl - evil bump