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HungarianGOD   . Jun 29 2012 12:09. Posts 459

I hesitated posting these because they are pretty standard or there wasn't enough information on villain to make accurate decision, but I thought I'd post it anyway. The game is 9 ring, and most people are very bad with one super fish, though the table isn't as weak as yesterday. Villain in first hand was much stronger player; loose by online microstakes standards, very tight-aggressive compared to people calling 3 bets with 86 off suit and shit. Guessing he who was a weaker online micros player at some point.
I have TsTc in cutoff, with 60 bbs (was going to go home at end of orbit so didn't bother reloading). First 2 players fold, 3rd player raises to 5 bbs, 4th flats, hijack folds, I raise to 13bbs, then villain flats on button. The original raiser and the caller after him both fold. It should be noted here that I didn't really have a well-thought out way to play this hand... I knew I was going to commit on any flop that had no ace, but I wasn't sure what to do if the ace flops (my tiny PF 3-bet size made a commitment decision harder here post flop since...


Flop: Ac8h4s
Pot 34 bbs, E stack-size 47 bbs.

I cbet 15 bbs, because this person knows I've been very tight (and he's actually good enough to adjust his play against me), and knows my range has so many aces in it. He thinks for about 8 seconds then jams. I had very limited info here, but I thought for about 45 seconds, and called since I was getting 3 to 1. I think his range is crushing me here... I didn't think he would play QQ or KK this way, though I do think there was some unknown portion of his range he would induce bluff here since I lead out so weakly.



Here is a hand earlier in the that I probably played badly. I had some really small stack... 45 bbs I think. 8 players, mid position raises to 5 bbs, 1 mid position caller, I flat in cutoff with 8cTc. Dealer folds, big blind calls. So 4 going into the flop, I am in position.

Flop is Ts6h2h.
Pot is 20 bbs, E Stack-size 40 bbs.

I'm embarrassed to say I am forgetting how the action went... There are 2 extremely different possibilities. either:

a) utg bets 13 bbs, utg+1 calls, and then I jam. Or
b) first 2 players check, I bet 13 bbs, big blind jams, one of the other 2 players call and one folds, then I call.

Not sure if I like any part of my play here or not... I think flatting with T8s in a low stakes live game is questionable especially since I had no money in front of me (since most people are calling stations and a lot of the power of drawing hands comes from fold equity), and also flop just felt like I was paying people off, I dono. Maybe it's trivial since I was short stacked. Any thoughts?

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 Last edit: 30/06/2012 16:36

sunnysky7   . Jun 29 2012 16:45. Posts 1549

H1
I would like to shove preflop or chk/fold on this flop, rarely bet/fold depends on villain tandancy, i would also like to c/c some Ax on this flop to balance my play esp in live game ppl just stab so much while initial raiser chk behind.
bet/call here seems spwey imo, its a super dry ace-high board i dont think someone cold call 3bet would try to outplay you on this flop with this stack size

H2
fold preflop would be the right play, even if initial raiser raised to 3bb i dont think flat call this hand with the stack size would be +EV

 Last edit: 29/06/2012 17:19

traxamillion   United States. Jun 29 2012 17:02. Posts 10468

not sure why u bet call tt on a high dry lol


NewbSaibot   United States. Jun 29 2012 23:07. Posts 4952


  He thinks for about 8 seconds then jams. I had very limited info here, but I thought for about 45 seconds, and called

i lol'd

bye now 

HungarianGOD   . Jun 30 2012 07:01. Posts 459

Hmm, people are thinking my decision is more retarded than I thought. I do think I have the losing hand a vast majority of the time with the flop call, but there is such little money left to go into the pot, it's not like I had enough behind to call a pot size raise or something. If I am just going to give up the hand when the ace flops (admittedly probably the smart thing to do), shouldn't I just check/fold? I didn't think the hand through through very well before making my preflop decision, and so when I bet the flop I think I am leaving such a small amount behind that call is only a small mistake. Am I just totally wrong here?

Not to say the hand was really played decently anywhere, I just think the call isn't as bad as people are thinking. I definitely should have squeezed larger preflop then committing postflop isn't as big a mistake.


SemPeR   Canada. Jul 05 2012 01:17. Posts 2288

didnt read the replies but thought id reply to a hand since i just made a thread...

h1: i dont really agree w ur thought process. i dont even think 60bb FR live you wanna be getting TT in pre, but if your impression is that its good, w/e. as played i chk as he has tons of ax (he shouldnt be flatting fwiw, but live players do this all the time and u made it pretty small pre so all the more reason to chk).
flop i feel is misplayed.

takeaway if anyone reading this honestly doesn't know...don't 3bet 25% of your stack for value pre if its not that great to get it in. live, if u think he's calling all the time you can sorta sorta sorta argue for it, but when an ace hits the flop ur done.

h2: stopped reading when u said u forgot the action

hope all that helps. cheers


Minsk   United States. Jul 05 2012 06:31. Posts 1558

c/f first hand and folding pre 2nd one seems right


2c0ntent   Egypt. Jul 05 2012 16:15. Posts 1387


  On July 05 2012 05:31 Minsk wrote:
c/f first hand and folding pre 2nd one seems right

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