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jvilla777   Australia. Jun 07 2012 06:26. Posts 696 | | | |
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superfashion   United States. Jun 07 2012 08:18. Posts 918 | | |
probably getting both in on flop if at all possible |
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mnj   United States. Jun 07 2012 17:46. Posts 2826 | | |
1) this hand is tricky, folding is probably the easiest/most + ev move at this limit
2) raising flop is good, can potentially get it in with straight flush draws as well as nut flush draws which is goot. if behind your pretty fine as well |
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barbieman   Sweden. Jun 07 2012 21:43. Posts 2108 | | |
1) What's his 3bet% and flat% from that pos? I'm guessing this player will have some overpairs in his range a good amount here & nfds. Don't know if he calls 89s, 87s pre.
He could be raising hands like QJs, overs, backdoors etc. Being oop without any reads I'm just gonna fold here.
But I will assume that a player with those stats won't be very bluffy.
2) Def raising flop |
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joLin   United States. Jun 08 2012 00:06. Posts 3815 | | |
hand 2 i'm calling down. your hand isnt vulnerable and you want to give him a chance to bluff or whatever. im calling down with the intention of betting when checked to. |
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asdf2000   United States. Jun 08 2012 02:34. Posts 7292 | | |
hand 1 is tough and is very player dependent. is he good enough to be flatting with like QT,JT, 9T ? if so, easy pitch |
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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 08 2012 07:42. Posts 2631 | | |
hand 1 is easy flat vs that raise. he near minraises flop, which usually = a lolrange of tens, random pps, 8's, draws.
hand 2 is interesting, you could get it on flop, you could call down. i think your line is fine. It's hard to see what he donk leads twice with then check calls that river with. I don't hate your river sizing. |
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jvilla777   Australia. Jun 08 2012 19:33. Posts 696 | | |
hand 1.
Once we decide to flat a villains raise, do call down all streets given the turn n river non diamonds or non broadway cards?
hand 2.
Same villain is involved, this is the hand that happened before hand 1, not quite sure if he raised is pos during hand 1 because of tilting. Also in this hand 2 there is another villain to act after us on flop probably giving us more implied odds by just calling flop and not raising. As played though on the river I decide to bet small to get a call from a Kx hand and to induce raise from villain. |
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TimDawg   United States. Jun 10 2012 11:06. Posts 8735 | | |
Hand 1) I might fold flop if he's that nitty but I wouldn't fault you for calling once and seeing a turn
Hand 2) you absolutely must raise the flop and plan on getting it in. These oop leads are usually done with a pretty weak range and QK is crushing that range most of the time, not to mention you have the 2nd NFD. I'd prob still raise turn to something that makes it easy to shove the river with. I don't mind your river bet but I think you should bet bigger |
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