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PLO10 Flopped baby flush rr pot

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Zetsnotdead   Poland. May 16 2012 22:17. Posts 514

Submitted by : Zetsnotdead

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$10.00 USD PL Omaha - Wednesday, May 16, 05:48:46 ET 2012
Table Phoenix III Real Money
Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $25.00 USD - VPIP: 18, PFR: 9, 3B: 20, AF: 0.5, Hands: 11
Seat 2: Player2 $23.80 USD - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 9.0, Hands: 138
Seat 3: Hero $25.21 USD - VPIP: 31, PFR: 24, 3B: 9, AF: 3.8, Hands: 759
Seat 4: Player4 $14.45 USD - VPIP: 27, PFR: 14, 3B: 0, AF: 6.0, Hands: 22
Seat 5: Player5 $24.99 USD - VPIP: 38, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
Seat 6: Player6 $99.34 USD - VPIP: 26, PFR: 14, 3B: 9, AF: 2.0, Hands: 123
Player4 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player5 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
Player1 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player2 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Hero posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player4 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player5 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].
Player6 posts ante of [$0.02 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [2d2c4dJc ]
Player6 folds
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$0.47 USD]
Hero raises [$1.68 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 calls [$1.58 USD]
Player2 calls [$1.21 USD]

Flop (Pot : $5.09)

   5dQdJd
Player5 checks
Player2 checks
Hero checks

Turn (Pot : $5.09)

   5dQdJd7d
Player5 bets [$3.00 USD]
Player2 folds
Hero calls [$3.00 USD]

River (Pot : $11.09)

   5dQdJd7dJh
Player5 bets [$10.71 USD]
Hero ?



I think pre is a muck.

On the flop I decided to check it back figuring I'll have a hard time getting 3 barrels of value from worse. Also, J helps a bit. Now there are less board pairing turns.

I don't think he's ever vbing worse hands on the turn but I figured he has enough bluffs for me to continue.

Since I don't think he'd valuebet top two or a set on the turn (is that a wrong assumption?), I think river is a call. The other thing I find suspicious is that he decided to pot the board pairing river. From the little experience I have playing PLO, I haven't seen flushes being potted on pairing cards very often.

 Last edit: 16/05/2012 22:19

MiPwnYa    Brasil. May 16 2012 22:38. Posts 3664

pf is arguable but probably ok if player4 sucks.
postflop I play it the same and prolly muck riv, I think ppl do bet sets and possibly 2pr on the turn.
I dont expect a random to bluff that river very often at all but I could be wrong.


Zetsnotdead   Poland. May 16 2012 22:49. Posts 514

I actually folded thinking it's a decision between him showing up with a few hands that he reps vs him making oop two barrel spazz at 3way flop weakness in rr pot. While reviewing the session, I just couldn't believe I folded putting him on QQxx or QJ that I wasn't even certain if he bets on the turn. But you saying he's betting it, makes me feel better about folding.

Do you agree with him being polarised to houses and bluffs on the river? Do you think I ever get a shown a nut flush there? I think it'd be a little silly to pot a hand like that while hoping to get called by worse flushes.

 Last edit: 16/05/2012 22:50

MiPwnYa    Brasil. May 16 2012 22:54. Posts 3664

nah I really dont expect to see flushes at all either. I think its polarized to boats and bluffs too.


MiPwnYa    Brasil. May 16 2012 23:02. Posts 3664

meh the more I think about it the more I want to call lol esp w a J in our hand
its basically QQxx or nuthin
im too tired I'll think about it tomorrow with a rested mind : )


TimDawg    United States. May 17 2012 15:15. Posts 8732

i never 3bet a hand like this preflop, which is just me but i'm still learning new stuff about PLO everyday

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

InsideMan   United Kingdom. May 20 2012 11:08. Posts 156

I think pre is a bit too marginal/aggressive, I'd rather fold. I think your flop and turn play is fine. On the turn he can definetly be betting two pairs and sets, otherwise I agree that you should be calling the river. As played I think it's a close spot with the blocker and this is where player reads come into play. Presumably Player5 is a weak player and whether or not I call here would depend on my impression of how he plays and reads I have on him.
To be honest I think that when you factor in the way a lot of weaker players play, I don't hate a river call, particularly with our blocker. He could easily never have a boat here in which case his range is close to 100% air.

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