Sunday 500 2pair vs river crai

No info on villain, but he thinks we are crazy aggro capable of 3barreling and bluffing like a monkey

Submitted by : player999

PokerStars Hand #80023170201: Tournament #571020018, $500+$30 USD Holdem No Limit - Level II (30/60) - 2012/05/06 17:16:23 BRT [2012/05/06 16:16:23 ET]
Table 571020018 25 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: kaju85 (6888 in chips)
Seat 2: AceSpades11 (7436 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: pimmie (9715 in chips)
Seat 4: MarkusG91 (10574 in chips)
Seat 5: mypokerf (9484 in chips)
Seat 6: LISTILLO (14310 in chips)
Seat 7: Bislet (9388 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero (10450 in chips)
Seat 9: Villain (12412 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind 30
kaju85: posts big blind 60

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
AceSpades11: folds
pimmie: folds
MarkusG91: folds
mypokerf: folds
LISTILLO: folds
Bislet: folds
Hero: raises 120 to 180
Villain: raises 300 to 480
kaju85: folds
AceSpades11 has returned
Hero: calls 300

Flop (Pot : $1,020.00)

   
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 660
Villain: calls 660

Turn (Pot : $2,340.00)

   
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 1440
Villain: calls 1440

River (Pot : $5,220.00)

   
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 3840
Villain: raises 5992 to 9832 and is all-in
Hero: ???

wow that sucks i think this is an easy fold though

i mean what are u putting him on and how often do you think he has it

he dosnt rep anything i mean this looks like a random spazz to me with 8x JJ TT or Q7s etc if he dosnt have QQ and QQ only

dont expect to chcall w AA either or KK, and even if he did its a small aprt of his ch/call range here with hitting turn/riv aswell..

and he wouldnt checkcall JTs in a spot like this as PFR that would be nice imo in highstakes cashgames vs very very good regs, otherwise obv stupid in a tourney and dont expect that at all, i dunno no one usually bluffs here cuz they dont rep much but if u think he is alittlebit spazzy he might spazz out with JJ or so just being terrible at poker (u should be pretty pulerised here and its not a good spot to turn made hands into bluff imo)

i would be curious to call, but usually ppl dont bluff here but expect to see AA that took a ch/call line alot i guess, or the very bad spazzout i dunno the skill level on 500$ mtt regs really

what about AK, AQ and maybe A8, A6? remember that he expects hero to barrel a lotttttt so he might trap more than usual

I think aq makes the most sense of anything

i think you need to ask yourself how wide he is c/r for value here. if he would c/c A8 and AK then it could be a call given how few combos of value he would have. but i dont think hes random spazzing here often

On May 09 2012 20:21 Daut wrote: if he would c/c A8 and AK then it could be a call given how few combos of value he would have.

what? shouldnt it be "if he would c/c A8 and AK then it could be a fold given how more combos of value he could have."?

On May 10 2012 01:57 player999 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2012 20:21 Daut wrote: if he would c/c A8 and AK then it could be a call given how few combos of value he would have. what? shouldnt it be "if he would c/c A8 and AK then it could be a fold given how more combos of value he could have."?

nono i mean if he would c/c those on the river. i dont think its obvious he has a wider value range here than AK+. Not sure everyone c/r AQ here on the river, and wouldnt be shocked to see AK c/c either. maybe im just too used to playing plo and only seeing nuts every time

I cant imagine any value hand in his range that you beat. If he is bluffing then wow hes got some cojones to raise your halfstack bet with air. I think it's just a fold

btw. what's his av buy in?

I was villain and hero was isildur, who snap called KQ and busted my T9s

On May 11 2012 12:28 player999 wrote: I was villain and hero was isildur, who snap called KQ and busted my T9s

wrong villain. daut44 folds AQ to you there

thats a moot point, daut44 folds 88 to a flop c/r

On May 11 2012 12:54 player999 wrote: thats a moot point, daut44 folds 88 to a flop c/r

this made me laugh

wow sick play.

i think the flush draw really hurt your equity a bit, on a rainbow I expect a fold like 15% more often.

i edited out my 10 A4 of text replys cuz i came off way to bashy on tourneyplayers and way to arrogant, i was in a bad mood etc so i take that back its just unnecessary.

but i think its a fold for isildur, and i still think its stupid thinking AQ is your most likely hand (why even ´make the assumption in the first place that he randomly would start checkcalling down AQ instead of just takeing value for it)

vs isildur tho its a very nice spot to take a checkcallline with AQ+ but i dont think he expects u to : P

but i like ur check/call line alot w T9 against tricky players its nice to have hand they never add in ur range

and i think isildur made a bad call here against most tourneyplayers, but as i wrote in my edited out post ppl spazz sometimes even tho u dont rep anytrhing (as u did, dont spazz sir) i think its a terrible bluff but i also think that it isnt a snapcallspot by isildur with what he should assume about a random 500$ tourney regguy but i guess he was thinking that hey its a 500$ tourney, im faceing a random guy and he dosnt rep much, call (as was i in my first post earlier in the thread, u really dont rep anything and i would be very curious to bluffcatch here) i really really think bluffing here is bad in reality but it would probably work against me if i knew that u were a solid player cuz i dont expect ppl to be this stupid when they dont rep anything, its just silly to try to make me fold a assumed pulerised valuebetrange of KQ+ sets, JT or air

in isildurs range i would also but any Ax KT KJ etc aswell as maybe QJ but i would never try to bluff him here because u dont rep anything and isildur dosnt like to fold

For some reason they always have AQ/AK here.

On May 09 2012 19:45 longple wrote: he dosnt rep anything i mean this looks like a random spazz to me and he wouldnt checkcall JTs in a spot like this as PFR that would be nice imo in highstakes cashgames vs very very good regs, otherwise obv stupid in a tourney and dont expect that at all, he might spazz out with JJ or so just being terrible at poker (u should be pretty pulerised here and its not a good spot to turn made hands into bluff imo) i would be curious to call

On May 11 2012 12:28 player999 wrote: I was villain and hero was isildur, who snap called KQ and busted my T9s

gg player