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the cleaner   Venezuela. Mar 10 2012 15:58. Posts 2973

Submitted by : the cleaner

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** Poker Stars
$100.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, March 10, 08:10:43 ET 2012
Table Botein IV Real Money
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 $102.64 USD - VPIP: 21, PFR: 18, 3B: 8, AF: 3.8, Hands: 2295
Seat 2: Player2 $134.59 USD - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 0.7, Hands: 81
Seat 4: Player4 $88.04 USD - VPIP: 37, PFR: 10, 3B: 3, AF: 1.8, Hands: 385
Seat 5: Hero $120.50 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 19, 3B: 9, AF: 3.1, Hands: 852020
Seat 6: Player6 $89.45 USD - VPIP: 23, PFR: 22, 3B: 6, AF: 6.3, Hands: 283
Player1 posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
Player2 posts big blind [$1.00 USD].

Holecards
Dealt to Hero [JdKd ]
Player4 folds
Hero raises [$3.00 USD]
Player6 folds
Player1 raises [$9.50 USD]
Player2 folds
Hero calls [$7.00 USD]

Flop (Pot : $20.50)

   Tc3dQs
Player1 bets [$13.00 USD]
Hero calls [$13.00 USD]

Turn (Pot : $46.50)

   Tc3dQs6d
Player1 bets [$28.00 USD]

There are no facts, only interpretations. 

the cleaner   Venezuela. Mar 10 2012 09:02. Posts 2973

standard shove, yea?

There are no facts, only interpretations. 

handbanana21   United States. Mar 10 2012 10:05. Posts 2820

yeap


lebowski   Greece. Mar 10 2012 11:37. Posts 8185

so much equity

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

waga   United Kingdom. Mar 10 2012 11:52. Posts 2355

I've got the feeling that he will fold his bluffy hands on the river and not fold if we hit.
So I just call.


kingpowa   France. Mar 10 2012 13:32. Posts 1525


  On March 10 2012 11:52 waga wrote:
I've got the feeling that he will fold his bluffy hands on the river and not fold if we hit.
So I just call.


you shove every river card if he checks ?
what if he bets a brick (he may be doing this with his bluffs) ?

sorry for shitty english. 

waga   United Kingdom. Mar 10 2012 13:45. Posts 2355

Yes and I don't think so.
Imo he will not 3barrel bluff this booard , but it's a good board to 2Barrel
I could be wrong tho

(edit : I probably check or fold a K river)

 Last edit: 10/03/2012 13:46

barbieman   Sweden. Mar 10 2012 14:26. Posts 2132

why is it a good board to double barrel? seems like a bad board to double barrel to me. We have KQ,AQ, JTs-ATs, QJs or oesd pretty much always.

Yes, shove.


waga   United Kingdom. Mar 10 2012 15:10. Posts 2355

If it's not a good board to 2 barrel ,then when he does, he should call all his range.
What's the point to shove when we've got no FE and an easy decision river ?

I mean all the hands he fold to a shove are the hands that will probably c/f river.


the cleaner   Venezuela. Mar 10 2012 15:15. Posts 2973

waga, i think we have a lot of FE on this board, and it would suck if turn goes ch/ch and we loose to AK or AJ type of hands. Also he could be folding hands like KT or JT/T9 or 99 to our turn shove.

There are no facts, only interpretations.Last edit: 10/03/2012 15:17

waga   United Kingdom. Mar 10 2012 15:20. Posts 2355

hands he c/f river imo

my point is :
all the hands he 2barrel with lik AJ AK KJ AT JT 99 JJ etc will probably c/f river. (you represent a lot of strenght when you call 2 streets) and you've got an easy decision if he bet / good FE if he check.
He never fold AA KK AQ KQ obv ...


edit : If he shove river hands like AK AJ AT etc , then yes I prefer a shove obviously , but I'm quite confident he c/f a lot those hands.

 Last edit: 10/03/2012 15:24

barbieman   Sweden. Mar 10 2012 15:22. Posts 2132

We have no idea if he will c/f river with those hands. We have FE, it's just not a good board to double barrel with complete air.


Twisted    Netherlands. Mar 10 2012 16:46. Posts 10328

Don't think he'll bet/fold a lot to be honest. By calling you're never making a mistake here because you get fine odds to draw so it's +EV always to call here. You don't even need to make any money on the river if you hit.

Then again shoving won't be terrible I guess. He could have some hands like AK/AJ/JK/AT that he might bet/fold the turn with so I guess there is some fold equity.


Daut    United States. Mar 10 2012 22:24. Posts 8424


  On March 10 2012 16:46 Twisted wrote:
Don't think he'll bet/fold a lot to be honest. By calling you're never making a mistake here because you get fine odds to draw so it's +EV always to call here. You don't even need to make any money on the river if you hit.

Then again shoving won't be terrible I guess. He could have some hands like AK/AJ/JK/AT that he might bet/fold the turn with so I guess there is some fold equity.



agree. one of those spots where i really dont think it matters a whole lot what you do, both plays seem reasonable/fine. i dont even know what i do more often. probably just shove over guys that 2 barrel a high percentage and call vs those who dont

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 10/03/2012 22:31

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Mar 11 2012 08:32. Posts 8877

Yea if you know he is never bluffing there you should obv call but if you think you have some FE (not a lot is needed given our raw equity) you should ship.


the cleaner   Venezuela. Mar 11 2012 12:05. Posts 2973

thanks guys

There are no facts, only interpretations. 

YoMeR   United States. Mar 14 2012 14:32. Posts 12023

I'm pretty sure if he only folds like 15% of the time here this is an ez ship.

that said if that 15% only includes his air balls then i might tend to flat more. If he snaps most of his value range then call is probably better since well...this guy ain't folding teh queen

eZ Life. 

phexac   United States. Mar 16 2012 08:00. Posts 2556

Yeah this is definitely a spot where you make the play based on what you think makes you more money from this particular player.

Nitting it up since 2006 

Twisted    Netherlands. Mar 16 2012 12:56. Posts 10328


  On March 16 2012 08:00 phexac wrote:
Yeah this is definitely a spot where you make the play based on what you think makes you more money from this particular player.



LOL


TalentedTom    Canada. Mar 16 2012 15:39. Posts 19853


  On March 16 2012 08:00 phexac wrote:
Yeah this is definitely a spot where you make the play based on what you think makes you more money from this particular player.



brilliant

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