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whamm!   Albania. Feb 28 2012 20:38. Posts 10019

now uses magnet links so "users" are held liable instead of the site, let's build communities in jail.
http://gizmodo.com/5889119/the-pirate-bay-removes-torrent-links

This is like a desperate attempt to thwart lawsuits(unfortunately users dont want to go to jail as well so this is not going to work at all). Fuckn ACTA bullshit pressure seems to be working.

*megavideo
*btjunkie
*piratebay

Smaller sites like kickasstorrents and extratorrent will probably go the same route soon, them being much less funded/popular.

Nobody just leaves LP - bigredhossLast edit: 28/02/2012 20:40

TheHuHu3   United States. Feb 28 2012 22:51. Posts 5401

No wonder. I only download from there every once in a while but I get that pop-up every time I did.

TheHuHu4 coming soon :) 

julep   Australia. Feb 28 2012 23:04. Posts 1219

is there a way to know what you're downloading with magnet links?

iirc you cant view the files you are downloading


NewbSaibot   United States. Feb 28 2012 23:36. Posts 4256

This doesnt endanger users any more than torrent files did. You're still sharing data via p2p like you always were. Technically TPB should have been safe hosting torrents, because a torrent does not contain any data related to what you're downloading, it's just peer connection info from other users. But the **AA have still been able to shut down torrent sites, so now they have moved to magnet links, where NO FILE is hosted whatsoever, so there is no possible way for a site like TPB to be accused of infringing on anything. It would be like suing google for pointing users to pirated material. The risk is the same as it always was for the end-user, so this changes nothing. Just make sure you use a good ip filter like peerblock to block known ip's from connecting to your pc and collecting evidence of file sharing.

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Stim_Abuser   United States. Feb 28 2012 23:47. Posts 6940

See what censorship on the internet leads to LP MODS?

Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete 

GoTuNk   Chile. Feb 29 2012 00:07. Posts 2570


  On February 28 2012 23:36 NewbSaibot wrote:
This doesnt endanger users any more than torrent files did. You're still sharing data via p2p like you always were. Technically TPB should have been safe hosting torrents, because a torrent does not contain any data related to what you're downloading, it's just peer connection info from other users. But the **AA have still been able to shut down torrent sites, so now they have moved to magnet links, where NO FILE is hosted whatsoever, so there is no possible way for a site like TPB to be accused of infringing on anything. It would be like suing google for pointing users to pirated material. The risk is the same as it always was for the end-user, so this changes nothing. Just make sure you use a good ip filter like peerblock to block known ip's from connecting to your pc and collecting evidence of file sharing.



This post is so scary on so many levels. You really think the US govt will go after someone, say, who has been torrenting for 10 years?


devon06atX   Canada. Feb 29 2012 00:23. Posts 4578


  On February 28 2012 23:47 Stim_Abuser wrote:
See what censorship on the internet leads to LP MODS?

Please don't derail the thread with this kind of nonsense.

NewbSaibot - Ya know, come to think of it, Ive never actually had a heater before 

whamm!   Albania. Feb 29 2012 00:29. Posts 10019

Ban both stim and devon for fighting

Nobody just leaves LP - bigredhoss 

TalentedTom    Canada. Feb 29 2012 00:31. Posts 19657

i wonder what the internet will be like 10 years from now ;-0 dont like the direction it's heading

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devon06atX   Canada. Feb 29 2012 00:56. Posts 4578

Me neither tom, I'm going to be really upset if I can no longer download seasons of shows and movies with ease.

Realistically, they DO have a very solid argument (considering it's copyrighted material) but blah, fuck them. I want my free stuff.

NewbSaibot - Ya know, come to think of it, Ive never actually had a heater before 

whamm!   Albania. Feb 29 2012 01:12. Posts 10019

I can't give 2 shits about songs. but movies and tv damn I'm going to miss not needing to watch television, notwaiting for stuff to come out in cinemas and not missing out on a ton of great indies/documentaries etc.

99.99% of the websites i visit cant afford to pay for royalties and shit

Nobody just leaves LP - bigredhossLast edit: 29/02/2012 01:35

Gumster   Sweden. Feb 29 2012 04:01. Posts 2112

information not shared is lost yo

Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb 

uiCk   Canada. Feb 29 2012 08:53. Posts 2978


  On February 29 2012 04:01 Gumster wrote:
information not shared is lost yo

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

Liquid`Meat   . Feb 29 2012 09:35. Posts 3360


  On February 28 2012 23:47 Stim_Abuser wrote:
See what censorship on the internet leads to LP MODS?


Keep your issues with the moderation in this thread: http://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=1016274 or create a thread in the website feedback if you have any specific issues. No need to derail other topics with any problem you might have with the mod team. This way we keep LP clean and we can respond properly to any concerns you might have.


taco   Iceland. Feb 29 2012 10:15. Posts 1761


  On February 29 2012 09:35 Liquid`Meat wrote:
create a thread in the website feedback if you have any specific issues.



Searched for like 5-6 minutes now and I'm not seeing anything of the sort.


PplusAD   Germany. Feb 29 2012 10:25. Posts 7043

Hm basically in case u youse peerblock (which was always recommended anyways) nothing changes ?

U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz) 

palak   United States. Feb 29 2012 11:22. Posts 4601

Internet in 10 yrs will be fine...ppl just switch to new services when old ones r banned e.g. napster users moved to torrents. If torrents r cracked down on then ppl will move again. Also anytype of firewall or censorship (in America at least) will be circumvented fairly easily by anyone who cares to get passed it. Plus odds of that going up r extremely small since it would face a giant backlash. Another note ACTA is signed but has not been ratified by any nation, it requires 6 ratifications to go into effect. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement
There right now is no "ACTA" pressure since it isnt even an actual policy yet. Piratebay is getting pressued by british, us, and swedish gov't again dur to mpaa/riaa lobbying. (just google mpaa sweden piratebay) there r a ton of articles on it.

  Smaller sites like kickasstorrents

first the megavid shutdown wasnt acta it was us gov't due to mpaa/riaa lobbying. 2nd, kickasstorrents is larger then btjunkie was http://torrentfreak.com/top-10-most-popular-torrent-sites-of-2011-110105/


  It would be like suing google for pointing users to pirated material.

This is, in fact, illegal in America under the DMCA of '98. Hence y if u google for something pirated there is almost always a messege at the bottom. I googled "metallica torrent" and at the btm had multiple things saying
  In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.



Under current law though a website only needs to remove links or material if given notice and proof of illegality from the copyright holder. As of now there r simply so many torrents that its impossible to block them all. I mean there were 18 torrents that pulled up before that messege.


  You really think the US govt will go after someone, say, who has been torrenting for 10 years?

the mpaa/riaa have done this successfully numerous times. Odds though r small of getting caught, personally I would have no problem going to jail for something I believe in (fairly sure total market value of my pirated material is slightly north of $1mil)

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquariumLast edit: 29/02/2012 11:45

c4rnage   . Feb 29 2012 12:03. Posts 406

afaik this was also implemented to decrease the size of the site, so they can create backups very easly and be carried by anyone in a usb, in theory with this is impossible now to take down TPB, and if that happens there would be A LOT of backups to take it up again in no time.


palak   United States. Feb 29 2012 12:39. Posts 4601

^that too. All of pirate bay now fits into like 90 mb of data

dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium 

whamm!   Albania. Feb 29 2012 19:51. Posts 10019

Theory is all good that everything will remain the same. Thing is megavideo had the lawbooks thrown at them (possible jailtime) and btjunkie already succumbed to pressure. Unless ACTA goes away I don't feel happy about the way this is progressing.

Nobody just leaves LP - bigredhoss 

 
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