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Doug "WCGRider" Polk going against No Limit Bot for $100,000

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Garfed   Malta. Apr 26 2015 12:29. Posts 4818

This is a question being asked over and over again with computers becoming more powerful each day: can a computer bot beat a poker player? We already know that even the best human players can't compete against artificial intelligence in the game of chess, but what about more complex game of poker?

The challenge already started in Pittsburgh at 11am local time on Friday and will be running every day for eight hours until May 7th. The human team is being represented by online professional Doug ‘WCGRider’ Polk and his three colleagues. They will be going against ‘Claudico’, a computer program designed by a team at Carnegie Mellon University.

The results should be really interesting, as the game is heads up No Limit Hold’em challenge.
Last time scientists claimed another poker bot, ‘Cepheus’, could play perfect Limit Hold’em and beat or go even against any opponent over long periods of time. No Limit Hold'em is way more complex though.

There is also $100,000 on the lane, as Rivers Casino along with Microsoft put up that kind of price for a player that wins over the course of 80,000 hands against Claudico.

“It’s pretty cool to be at the cutting edge of technology like this”, said Polk. “I hope we can stand up for humanity and take this computer down. I know computers will eventually be able to beat humans, but I hope we can make them go a few more rounds after this before they do.”

Creator of Claudico, Tuomas Sandholm, commented: “The No Limit game is so complicated it opens up more possible situations than there are atoms in the universe. We are using these algorithms for poker, but they are really developed for use in any game of incomplete information in general, from cyber security, to negotiations, to medicine.”

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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Apr 26 2015 13:18. Posts 5647

"We are using these algorithms for poker, but they are really developed for use in any game of incomplete information in general, from cyber security, to negotiations, to medicine"
That's a cool line. Time to study how this works


Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Apr 26 2015 14:14. Posts 9634

isnt his winrate higher than those 100k$ for 80k hands


TalentedTom    Canada. Apr 26 2015 14:21. Posts 20070

I hope they post EV graph

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Apr 26 2015 15:01. Posts 15163


  On April 26 2015 13:14 Spitfiree wrote:
isnt his winrate higher than those 100k$ for 80k hands


I guess he'll play it when he can't get action and replace some of his study time with playing the bot - should be beneficial to him if the bot's really good.

The added EV is in the Exposure he gets - I'm sure it has some value to become known to the general public too? It certainly will if he decides to monetize it through streaming/sponsorships/even job after poker when Microsoft's involved.

93% Sure! Last edit: 26/04/2015 15:01

longple    Sweden. Apr 26 2015 15:21. Posts 4472

http://www.liquidpoker.net/stream/claudico_extra


hiems   United States. Apr 26 2015 17:29. Posts 2979

Who is Jason Les?

I beat Loco!!! [img]https://i.imgur.com/wkwWj2d.png[/img] 

Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 26 2015 17:37. Posts 1631

is he freerolling this for 100k?


dnagardi   Hungary. Apr 26 2015 19:20. Posts 1776

epic, keep us updated pls


Ryan Neilly   United States. Apr 26 2015 19:25. Posts 1631


  On April 26 2015 18:20 dnagardi wrote:
epic, keep us updated pls


traxamillion   United States. Apr 26 2015 21:21. Posts 10468

Freeroll for 1$/Hand is worth anyone's time. Plus non monetary factors


traxamillion   United States. Apr 26 2015 21:25. Posts 10468

I have been watching donger and Polk min lead a ton on flops oop; from single raised pots to 4bet pots. I'm assuming they are trying to exploit the bot and this is not actually what they consider optimal strategy.

They do experiment on exploiting the bot. Doug c, c, c/r a river bet of 469 to 20,000k all in after slow playing a nut straight on a 10KX, A, X and bot calls with one pair A3. Doubt if that call can be GTO.

They bot does play well though and was clearly giving donger problems


traxamillion   United States. Apr 26 2015 21:27. Posts 10468

Pot was 500 on river in that hand


Mariuslol   Norway. Apr 27 2015 00:25. Posts 4742

Just seen a little bit, i think it was a few days ago, funny situation. He'd been playing a bit, and the security guard had been watching a bit.

Then he said, something along the lines of "I've been watching u a bit, many of the lines you use, i do the same thing, but it's not working out that well for me. You think you could go over my game when you're done here?"

Doug said yeah, sure

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Highcard   Canada. Apr 27 2015 02:52. Posts 5428

are there streams of previous days?

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Blitzkrieg0   United States. Apr 27 2015 03:11. Posts 50


  On April 27 2015 01:52 Highcard wrote:
are there streams of previous days?



http://www.twitch.tv/claudico_vs_dougpolk/profile/past_broadcasts

or go to past broadcasts of another player if you wanted someone else.

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PoorUser    United States. Apr 27 2015 06:52. Posts 7471


  On April 26 2015 16:29 hiems wrote:
Who is Jason Les?

Gambler Emeritus 

traxamillion   United States. Apr 27 2015 08:04. Posts 10468


  On April 27 2015 05:52 PoorUser wrote:
Show nested quote +




He is the only player of the 4 not considered top 10 but still a very strong player. Name Cheet.


traxamillion   United States. Apr 27 2015 08:06. Posts 10468


  On April 26 2015 23:25 Mariuslol wrote:
Just seen a little bit, i think it was a few days ago, funny situation. He'd been playing a bit, and the security guard had been watching a bit.

Then he said, something along the lines of "I've been watching u a bit, many of the lines you use, i do the same thing, but it's not working out that well for me. You think you could go over my game when you're done here?"

Doug said yeah, sure



That is hilarious/awesome. Hope Doug actually sweats him and gives him a little time lol


RaiZ   France. Apr 27 2015 18:58. Posts 1503

It's kinda sad they already know they're playing a bot. I'm more curious if they could "spot" a bot if they were to play on a poker software. Not controlled by a third party but actually made by the software itself.

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