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Handnr: 1046007
Submitted by : djforever

PokerStars Zoom Hand #125546982938: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2014/11/22 0:23:11 ET
Table Hydra 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Apapane ($25.50 in chips)
Seat 2: djforever ($43.19 in chips)
Seat 3: Patrick132 ($26.06 in chips)
Seat 4: needmoney76 ($25.35 in chips)
Seat 5: Stoone Stars ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: GustavoN2C ($119.32 in chips)
djforever: posts small blind $0.10
Patrick132: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to djforever KhTd
needmoney76: folds
Stoone Stars: folds
GustavoN2C: folds
Apapane: raises $0.30 to $0.55
djforever: raises $1.45 to $2
Patrick132: folds
Apapane: calls $1.45

Flop (Pot : $4.25)

   2cQs7h
djforever: bets $2.75
Apapane: calls $2.75

Turn (Pot : $9.75)

   2cQs7hJs
djforever: checks
Apapane: bets $4.70
djforever: raises $33.74 to $38.44 and is all-in
Apapane: folds
Uncalled bet ($33.74) returned to djforever
djforever collected $18.29 from pot
djforever: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $19.15 | Rake $0.86
Board  2cQs7hJs
Seat 1: Apapane (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: djforever (small blind) collected ($18.29)
Seat 3: Patrick132 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: needmoney76 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Stoone Stars folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: GustavoN2C folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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djforever   Canada. Nov 22 2014 00:24. Posts 1510

any better alternative lines here?

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lebowski   Greece. Nov 22 2014 06:34. Posts 9205

bet turn >>>>> c/shove turn, people float Qxx boards really often, especially when the other 2 cards are this low, he probably folded some low pp

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 22/11/2014 06:35

TimDawg    United States. Nov 22 2014 06:45. Posts 10197

Bet for sure

C/shove makes your hand look exactly like what it is...a draw

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

traxamillion   United States. Nov 22 2014 09:57. Posts 10468

I actually think the pot size (spr) is perfect for this move and I like it. People don't expect this turn check raise to be as much of a bluff/draw as they did in the past; largely for the reasons you guys stated. This is among the boards most likely to get floated so hero should be able to check and induce a bet very often on the turn. For hero to even have a draw here he would have had to have backdoored 910, k10, maybe AK or AKss, or spades; not a large range compared to all the value hands.

And from a balance standpoint since hero does not have many draws and fewer pure bluffs if any with this line, hero should not use this C/R with all of his value hands. Doing so would allow hero to be exploited easily (small bet/fold ip from villain). Hero should probably barrel the top (2p, set) and bottom (air) while c/r or c/c the draws and thinner value (pairs, Qx). Probably put overpairs in the barell group to get direct value from Qx. c/c and c/r are kinda interchangeable in this range with c/c allowing you to proceed with a little bit lower end of your range and can catch two bets from a bluffing villain instead of just one with a c/r.


lebowski   Greece. Nov 22 2014 16:16. Posts 9205

if you expect people to fold tp because this line seems too obvious to be a draw, you are missing on how stationish the field is @ nl25

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

 

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