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Handnr: 1044712
Submitted by : voodoouser

File: HH20141030 New York - €0.05-€0.10 - EUR No Limit Holdem.txt
PokerStars Zoom Hand #124184885813: Holdem No Limit (€0.05/€0.10) - 2014/10/30 19:54:22 CET [2014/10/30 14:54:22 ET]
Table New York 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: maxence38270 (€18.53 in chips)
Seat 2: Anthares448 (€11.34 in chips)
Seat 3: linford78 (€8.90 in chips)
Seat 4: skysch (€13.40 in chips)
Seat 5: MaxiMick (€21.68 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero (€13.82 in chips)
Anthares448: posts small blind €0.05
linford78: posts big blind €0.10

Holecards
Dealt to Hero 9dAs
skysch: folds
MaxiMick: folds
Hero: raises €0.20 to €0.30
maxence38270: folds
Anthares448: calls €0.25
linford78: calls €0.20

Flop (Pot : $0.00)

   6s8s7s
Anthares448: bets €0.40
linford78: calls €0.40
Hero: calls €0.40

Turn (Pot : $0.00)

   6s8s7sKh
Anthares448: checks
linford78: bets €1.10
Hero: calls €1.10
Anthares448: folds

River (Pot : $0.00)

   6s8s7sKh3c
linford78: bets €2.60
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet (€2.60) returned to linford78
linford78 collected €4.02 from pot
linford78: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot €4.30 | Rake €0.28
Board  6s8s7sKh3c
Seat 1: maxence38270 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: Anthares448 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: linford78 (big blind) collected (€4.02)
Seat 4: skysch folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: MaxiMick folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: Hero folded on the River

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voodoouser   Iceland. Oct 30 2014 15:25. Posts 741

is playing passively is ok here?
i know a lot of bad cards are coming for them but i dont feel like raising at any point...

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 Last edit: 30/10/2014 15:25

TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 30 2014 15:55. Posts 20070

theres no wrong way to play this draw, you have correct odds to profitably call flop and turn, raising is fine too

I think calling is kinda cool, cause most people dont have a wide raising range on this flop, so it better balances your range

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TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 30 2014 15:57. Posts 20070

Keep in mind voodoo, the reason behind your action is more important then the action itself. If you only played like this cause you "felt like it" then it may be incorrect, where as if a really good player was to make the same play, it is actually correct.
This is one of the reasons why when a weaker player watches a high stakes video made by an elite player, and copies their plays, they get crushed.
Before you make big descions like this, ask yourself is there a better way to play it, and if this is the best way, why is it better then my other options?

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the sameLast edit: 30/10/2014 15:58

voodoouser   Iceland. Oct 30 2014 17:15. Posts 741

yes, well since I have ace high but very good draws in position i dont have to inflate the pot especially these kind of boards 3 ways where my fold equity is very low. i wonder if this reasoning is valid because I rarely see someone not play overly agressive with this kind of hands+boards...

 Last edit: 30/10/2014 17:19

Corde   United Kingdom. Oct 30 2014 18:20. Posts 1099

how would you play fe pocket 99 here?


TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 30 2014 20:14. Posts 20070


  On October 30 2014 16:15 voodoouser wrote:
yes, well since I have ace high but very good draws in position i dont have to inflate the pot especially these kind of boards 3 ways where my fold equity is very low. i wonder if this reasoning is valid because I rarely see someone not play overly agressive with this kind of hands+boards...



Keep in mind just because a lot of players play a hand a certain way does not make it the best possible play, most players dont make a lot of money playing poker. Your last to act in the hand, and your pot odds are incredibly +EV, flatting here is a great option, esp since we dont know what the guy leading has, his range can potentially be very strong (ex flopped straight, set flush etc..) I personally like the way you played the hand, I'm just more currious as to why you think the play is good or not

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the sameLast edit: 30/10/2014 23:26

voodoouser   Iceland. Oct 30 2014 20:37. Posts 741


  On October 30 2014 17:20 Corde wrote:
how would you play fe pocket 99 here?


if you ask to me probably raise flop is better with 99


  On October 30 2014 19:14 TalentedTom wrote:
Your last to act in the hand, and your pot odds are incredibly +EV, flatting here is a great option, esp since we dont know what the guy leading has, his range can potentially be very strong (ex flopped straight, set flush etc..)



played it this way for these exact reasons and there's no need to flip coins at nl10 imo but the standard seems to be put a massive raise on flop then bomb turn, at least that's what i see all day...

 Last edit: 30/10/2014 20:46

devon06atX   Canada. Oct 31 2014 00:13. Posts 5458

I bomb it. And find it hugely profitable.

That's not to say it's the only way to play it. People seem to think there's one way to play hands at x given stakes. All player dependent man. Thing about this, I believe it would be hard to get paid if a 5, 10, or spade comes up.

If a spade comes, you may get paid off big from a drooler. And probably shit all from anyone competent. Yeah, a set/straight will get it all in w/ you (on the flop) - and you'd prefer they fold, but that's a very tiny part of their range.

Blah. I'm drinking a bit, and I dunno if I'm being coherent...

Anyways, I slamdunk that shit to mars.

What you have to think of is in this particular situation? Stack sizes.. position.. imo, this is a golden time to throw out your bronze balls and grab the pot now or later.

I mean. Fuck em if they can't take a joke, amirite?


 

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