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Handnr: 1043927
Submitted by : Bejamin1

PokerStars Hand #123471426820: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2014/10/18 17:14:44 ET
Table Mnemosyne II 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: woailuo47 ($223.87 in chips)
Seat 2: Bejamin1 ($147.39 in chips)
Seat 3: YouFoldJack ($64.25 in chips)
Seat 4: Underdog 987 ($53.15 in chips)
Seat 5: Szadd ($56.23 in chips)
Seat 6: foldgish ($63.03 in chips)
foldgish: posts small blind $0.25
woailuo47: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Bejamin1 Th8h7hJd
Bejamin1: raises $1.25 to $1.75
YouFoldJack: raises $4.25 to $6
Underdog 987: calls $6
Szadd: folds
foldgish: folds
woailuo47: folds
Bejamin1: calls $4.25

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $18.75)

   7c9h6d
Bejamin1: checks
YouFoldJack: checks
Underdog 987: checks

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $18.75)

   7c9h6dKc
Bejamin1: bets $12.50
YouFoldJack: calls $12.50
Underdog 987: calls $12.50

River (Pot : $56.25)

   7c9h6dKcKh
Bejamin1: bets $40.31
YouFoldJack: folds
Underdog 987: calls $34.65 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($5.66) returned to Bejamin1

Showdown
Bejamin1: shows Th8h7hJd (a straight, Six to Ten)
Underdog 987: shows JcQs9dKs (a full house, Kings full of Nines)
Underdog 987 collected $123.05 from pot

Summary
Total pot $125.55 | Rake $2.50
Board  7c9h6dKcKh
Seat 1: woailuo47 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Bejamin1 showed Th8h7hJd and lost with a straight, Six to Ten
Seat 3: YouFoldJack folded on the River
Seat 4: Underdog 987 showed JcQs9dKs and won ($123.05) with a full house, Kings full of Nines
Seat 5: Szadd (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: foldgish (small blind) folded before Flop

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Bejamin1   Canada. Oct 18 2014 17:24. Posts 7042

Probably just a c/c here, but both guys are 50VPIP+ aggrotards... I suppose that makes c/c even better, just a shitty river really. Maybe even a fold but vs. these idiots its actually maybe not even that close.

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devon06atX   Canada. Oct 19 2014 02:52. Posts 5458

fold preeeeeeeeeeeee man

j1098, allinski, j1097 call pre, two together cards that are the same colour? Run


devon06atX   Canada. Oct 19 2014 02:56. Posts 5458

Shit. I just realised you opened this utg. Man. I highly recommend watching some vanessa selbst videos or something, cuz this is bad.

And when you hit pretty, why are you checking? Obviously going for a check raise.. but dude. Build it!

You must hate me by shitting all over your hands considering I'm not a real plo player lol

I'm confident my advice is sound though.

imo - a nlhe background is bad for a new plo player


devon06atX   Canada. Oct 19 2014 03:48. Posts 5458

I wonder if a set bets. Probably huh. I really don't have that much experience... you think so? Would any set also call off? Top set equity I wonder vs made straight. Well, similar to a holdem hand I guess.

Man. What a game

equity wise. Clearly nothing like a holdem hand

Do you find there's a bunch of regs?

 Last edit: 19/10/2014 03:50

TianYuan    Korea (South). Oct 19 2014 07:23. Posts 6817

Uhhh

Standard open pre

Standard call of 3bet pre

Shoving river into 2 people... nope, probably not. C/c vs 1, fold vs 2 (depending on specific reads on the two fish obv).

Hm.. Off-suite socks.. 

devon06atX   Canada. Oct 19 2014 08:09. Posts 5458


  On October 19 2014 06:23 TianYuan wrote:
Uhhh

Standard open pre

Standard call of 3bet pre

Shoving river into 2 people... nope, probably not. C/c vs 1, fold vs 2 (depending on specific reads on the two fish obv).

Really? Wow. I've only watched about 10 hours worth of plo videos, but... yeah... I'm gonna continue nitting it up I think.


traxamillion   United States. Oct 19 2014 13:43. Posts 10468









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Handnr: 1043924
Submitted by : Bejamin1


PokerStars Hand #123468761050: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD) - 2014/10/18 16:34:09 ET
Table Hermione III 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Ellistrago ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: Jeep555rus ($26.20 in chips)
Seat 3: Bejamin1 ($50 in chips)
Seat 4: arsonist1878 ($74.14 in chips)
Seat 5: Mellieha ($40 in chips)
Seat 6: Nurmix ($74.80 in chips)
Jeep555rus: posts small blind $0.25
Bejamin1: posts big blind $0.50
Mellieha: posts big blind $0.50

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Bejamin1 AdKs6d4s
arsonist1878: folds
Mellieha: checks
Nurmix: folds
Ellistrago: raises $1.75 to $2.25
Jeep555rus: calls $2
Bejamin1: raises $7.25 to $9.50
Mellieha: calls $9
Ellistrago: folds
Jeep555rus: calls $7.25

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $30.75)

5dJh4d
Jeep555rus: checks
Bejamin1: bets $19.57
Mellieha: raises $10.93 to $30.50 and is all-in
Jeep555rus: calls $16.70 and is all-in
Bejamin1: calls $10.93

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $108.45)

5dJh4d9h

River (Pot : $108.45)

5dJh4d9h8c

Showdown
Bejamin1: shows AdKs6d4s (a pair of Fours)
Mellieha: shows Ac5c7hJs (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
Mellieha collected $27.60 from side pot
Jeep555rus: shows 3s6hTd8h (a pair of Eights)
Mellieha collected $78.35 from main pot

Summary
Total pot $108.45 Main pot $78.35. Side pot $27.60. | Rake $2.50
Board 5dJh4d9h8c
Seat 1: Ellistrago (button) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Jeep555rus (small blind) showed 3s6hTd8h and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 3: Bejamin1 (big blind) showed AdKs6d4s and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 4: arsonist1878 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: Mellieha showed Ac5c7hJs and won ($105.95) with two pair, Jacks and Fives
Seat 6: Nurmix folded before Flop (didnt bet)



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devon06atX Canada. Oct 18 2014 15:38. Posts 4708

#1



another shit hand...

I dunno. Are we reading from the same book or what?



big lebowski - devon should be probably be more humble with his advice imo





devon06atX Canada. Oct 18 2014 15:40. Posts 4708

#2



You know those videos 'kids, don't smoke'.. etc.

This is totally why you should play plo.



big lebowski - devon should be probably be more humble with his advice imo





Almebeast Sweden. Oct 18 2014 17:36. Posts 789

#3



What? This is a very strong hand. And look at the crappy hands he got called by. Wp.



After all is said and done, more is said than done.





devon06atX Canada. Oct 18 2014 21:24. Posts 4708

#4





On October 18 2014 17:36 Almebeast wrote:
What? This is a very strong hand. And look at the crappy hands he got called by. Wp.


See? This is why plo is the future.

btw, haven't seen your name/handle in ages. But yes, this hand is atrocious. From my limited experience/knowledge

Welcome back swede.



big lebowski - devon should be probably be more humble with his advice imo





devon06atX Canada. Today 02:02. Posts 4708

#5



Funny thing is, I'm so goddamned positive I'm right - and I'm a noob.

And THATS why plo is the game of the future hahaha



big lebowski - devon should be probably be more humble with his advice imo





devon06atX Canada. Today 02:08. Posts 4708

#6



Basically gives non-solid players many more chances to fuck up. Calling all ins with shit draws, mid sets, shit flush draws, etc.

I do it too. jjxx suited is definitely a loser man.

Coming from a noob haha. I woulda just folded this pre tbh, I think I might be a bit on the nitty side. Also realise I'm commenting about a different hand, oops. Where is whamm? I think he was the rockstar plo player a few years back..

Actually, he was wild from what I remember. I loved his hand histories. This post is the biggest waste of time ever. Tighten up!



big lebowski - devon should be probably be more humble with his advice imo





bigredhoss Cook Islands. Today 06:27. Posts 7841

#7



drink less devon...



Truck-Crash Life





bigredhoss Cook Islands. Today 06:29. Posts 7841

#8



actually drink more, this is pretty funny



Truck-Crash Life





traxamillion United States. Today 12:40. Posts 6887

#9



lol Benjamin's hand is good you sound like a massive PLO donk devon. Your are playing hu and are facing a raise from the button with Benjamin's hand, 100bb stacks and whatever, what do you do?

how can you even see AK64 double suited as bad? suited ace, suited king, AK high, connected cards with straight potential.

Its PLO, any 4 cards of a different value are going to have good equity vs anything. 2345, 38QA, 78KQ all are going to have equities that don't differ from each other nearly as much as you think. The more suited and connected the cards the equity of the hand goes up a few points.

Its not like you win often in PLO with 2nd pair or even top pair especially in a ring game. So 64 hits just as many trips, boats and quads as QJ

This is a good hand with good playability I just don't see how you can call it terrible



traxamillion   United States. Oct 19 2014 13:44. Posts 10468

oops.

I posted this in an earlier hand to devon in regards to his comments on Benjamin's AK64ds hand

lol Benjamin's hand is good you sound like a massive PLO donk devon. Your are playing hu and are facing a raise from the button with Benjamin's hand, 100bb stacks and whatever, what do you do?

how can you even see AK64 double suited as bad? suited ace, suited king, AK high, connected cards with straight potential.

Its PLO, any 4 cards of a different value are going to have good equity vs anything. 2345, 38QA, 78KQ all are going to have equities that don't differ from each other nearly as much as you think. The more suited and connected the cards the equity of the hand goes up a few points.

Its not like you win often in PLO with 2nd pair or even top pair especially in a ring game. So 64 hits just as many trips, boats and quads as QJ

This is a good hand with good playability I just don't see how you can call it terrible


traxamillion   United States. Oct 19 2014 13:52. Posts 10468

river shove is bad the rest is good here.

devon the thing is you keep giving advice like you are super confident, but then you say you don't even play PLO. And a lot of your advice is incredibly nitty and fundamentally wrong. Much too concerned with preflop hand selection when a lot of the hands you are differentiating between are much more similar than you think. Here you advocate going all in with 8910J, calling with 7910J, and folding 7810J. They differ in equity by about 1% and in fact 7810J has the best equity vs AAKK of the 3. Seems like you are focused on the wrong things and honestly your emphasis on this part of the game is indicative of a NLHE crossover.


 

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