call river

i'm not sure, vs this guy only threat should be AKd

On October 12 2014 14:58 traxamillion wrote: call river

calling river would be v bad

kinda results oriented tom. Yea this guy is obviously a huge fish but generally raise calling this river is going to be pretty trash. Most reasonable players will not bet call worse than 7x more than half of the time; more often than not they will fold worse or call with a flush/trump straight.

Maybe m/r fold since he does have a wide betting range I just don't have a lot of confidence in the raise getting called off and I don't like to raise this size and have to call off the rest

i didn't make a post to explain earlier but a factor in calling pre is not just position/suited connector but this particular guy if he 3bets 4x range is so narrow that we already have much more information than he does, flatting to him looks like 88~QQ because it's how he plays so he has no info about our range and with this action probably expects set over set meanwhile we pretty well know what he has

there's virtually no chance of JQ or a 7 i don't think his range ever dominates 87s i expect to have very live cards or i wouldn't play this pot

if he gets it in with top set then he's shoving 2~3 combos of AA (maybe only with Ad) which we beat and 1~2 nut flush combos (AKd or maybe AQd) so in the worst case we're 50/50 when he shoves (not counting any AdKx he shoves) and anyway we need value from any AK (maybe 2.5x sizing shouldn't change what he shoves with) and also sometimes it's be a scared bet from KK

it's a lot different if river is an 8 or 7 minraise is appealing

On October 12 2014 21:32 traxamillion wrote: I don't like to raise this size and have to call off the rest

but that was was the point to get it in

On October 12 2014 21:22 traxamillion wrote: Most reasonable players will not bet call worse than 7x more than half of the time

villian is clearly a complete retard, your thought process is way too converged treating everyone like they are reasonable players

also this is full ring there are many players that only 3-bet AK, QQ+, hero said himself that this class of player falls into that category (only flush he can have is AKdd)
in which case when he makes a block value bet for 2/5 pot we should be raising, at least the minimum

also playing every hand with a GTO mindset is a huge mistake, there are many spots where you should be playing exploitable, esp at lower levels vs massive retards/droolers/people who have no idea whats going on

tl;dr: here is villain's grinding setup

calling TalentedTom results oriented haha, what a joke. he has been consistently giving solid advice for about ten years on this site

Am i the only one that folds pre especially in a FR game? Guy has to be squeezing like 15% and you should be absolutely sure you re better postflop and then again you should know if he squeezes polarized or not

And yes,as played calling river is terribad and yes cariadon is right, except when Tom trolls which isn't rare :D