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Handnr: 1043214
Submitted by : Bejamin1

PokerStars Zoom Hand #122780398330: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2014/10/07 21:24:40 ET
Table Thyestes 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SQUEEZERONI ($33.71 in chips)
Seat 2: savachan ($27.78 in chips)
Seat 3: Jonas_G9 ($22.64 in chips)
Seat 4: Bejamin1 ($65.61 in chips)
Seat 5: dewast_out ($25.50 in chips)
Seat 6: diesel123710 ($72.83 in chips)
savachan: posts small blind $0.10
Jonas_G9: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Bejamin1 Ac7cQs4s
Bejamin1: raises $0.60 to $0.85
dewast_out: folds
diesel123710: folds
SQUEEZERONI: folds
savachan: folds
Jonas_G9: raises $1.15 to $2
Bejamin1: calls $1.15

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $4.10)

   JsTc6s
Jonas_G9: bets $2.94
Bejamin1: raises $9.81 to $12.75
Jonas_G9: raises $7.89 to $20.64 and is all-in
Bejamin1: calls $7.89

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $45.38)

   JsTc6sQc

River (Pot : $45.38)

   JsTc6sQcJd

Showdown
Jonas_G9: shows 7d5h8h9d (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Bejamin1: shows Ac7cQs4s (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Jonas_G9 collected $43.45 from pot

Summary
Total pot $45.38 | Rake $1.93
Board  JsTc6sQcJd
Seat 1: SQUEEZERONI (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: savachan (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Jonas_G9 (big blind) showed 7d5h8h9d and won ($43.45) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 4: Bejamin1 showed Ac7cQs4s and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
Seat 5: dewast_out folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: diesel123710 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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Bejamin1   Canada. Oct 07 2014 21:27. Posts 7042

Awesome. Okay, well, fuck this. Done for today.

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devon06atX   Canada. Oct 07 2014 22:43. Posts 5458

why are you playing such horrendous hands?

edit - I don't know much about plo, but from the limited that I do know (from watching some plo videos from deucescracked) I find you play lots and lots of garbage hands. I may be wrong.. not trying to needle, just a question.

 Last edit: 07/10/2014 22:46

austrian oak   Belgium. Oct 08 2014 06:24. Posts 520

I wouldnt even raise this on the button.

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Daut    United States. Oct 08 2014 11:09. Posts 8955


  On October 08 2014 05:24 austrian oak wrote:
I wouldnt even raise this on the button.



then you probably shouldnt play PLO

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austrian oak   Belgium. Oct 08 2014 11:44. Posts 520


  On October 08 2014 10:09 Daut wrote:
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then you probably shouldnt play PLO


Check ^^

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awesomeguy   Finland. Oct 08 2014 12:38. Posts 61

i bet people are lining up to stake you cause youd def crush pl50


awesomeguy   Finland. Oct 08 2014 12:41. Posts 61

liek the flop raise is so strong


traxamillion   United States. Oct 08 2014 13:12. Posts 10468

Preflop is standard as it gets, he has a good hand. Double suited with an ace and decent connectedness. Folding this on the button would be horrendous.

That said you aren't quite as strong on the flop as it might seem. Call flop


devon06atX   Canada. Oct 08 2014 13:27. Posts 5458


  On October 08 2014 12:12 traxamillion wrote:
Preflop is standard as it gets, he has a good hand. Double suited with an ace and decent connectedness. Folding this on the button would be horrendous.

That said you aren't quite as strong on the flop as it might seem. Call flop


I've only watched two series on plo so far, but they both repeatedly say how garbage these kinds of hands are. Maybe these videos are too old, or the games have turned upside down in the years that passed, I dunno.

As for the decent connectedness - huh? yeah, we have one nut draw, one mediocre.. and a couple high cards - I don't think that constitutes a coordinated hand? I put the question mark there because I'm not sure, but it's my understanding.

Also under the impression opening utg with a hand that has 1 nut, and 1 third nut isn't a winning move. Button, yeah, def raise. utg? nooooooo. Again, I've played less than 5k hands, just watched a couple series. Maybe I'm thinking too 'fundamentally'.

edit - to be honest, even the 'hard' rules that the coaches are talking about don't seem to be all too hard while they're actually playing... beats me

 Last edit: 08/10/2014 14:12

Bejamin1   Canada. Oct 08 2014 16:54. Posts 7042

If i was cut-off or button I'd always be opening this. In terms of first certainly not always. Chalk that up to playing 3.5k hands yesterday.

As played I think the flop is fairly acceptable. Calling flop is probably just as good seeing as we have position, if not better.

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traxamillion   United States. Oct 08 2014 19:07. Posts 10468

connectedness in that it can hit some straights and flop some gutshots and stuff that can give you a little equity. Obviously its not like highly connected capable of making wraps and what not. It isn't the best hand I wouldn't coldcall an ep open with it. I would open it unopened in most positions, UTG depends on the table but yea probably


 

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