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Handnr: 1043095
Submitted by : r0mx0

PokerStars Hand #122656071719: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2014/10/06 0:14:07 ET
Table Vibeke 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Assistant660 ($26.22 in chips)
Seat 2: ShokAllin ($67.06 in chips)
Seat 3: r0me0X ($79.97 in chips)
Seat 4: Barnett xD ($20 in chips)
Seat 5: Delavegata ($26.49 in chips)
Seat 6: Consulef ($26.83 in chips)
Consulef: posts small blind $0.10
Assistant660: posts big blind $0.25
Barnett xD: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to r0me0X 4hAh
ShokAllin: folds
r0me0X: raises $0.75 to $1
Barnett xD: folds
Delavegata: calls $1
Consulef: folds
Assistant660: folds

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $2.60)

   2h8s7h
r0me0X: bets $1.50
Delavegata: calls $1.50

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $5.60)

   2h8s7hAd
r0me0X: checks
Delavegata: bets $3.56
r0me0X: calls $3.56

River (Pot : $12.72)

   2h8s7hAd3d
r0me0X: checks
Delavegata: bets $6.25
r0me0X: calls $6.25

Showdown
Delavegata: shows AcKc (a pair of Aces)
r0me0X: mucks hand
Delavegata collected $24.09 from pot

Summary
Total pot $25.22 | Rake $1.13
Board  2h8s7hAd3d
Seat 1: Assistant660 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ShokAllin folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: r0me0X mucked 4hAh
Seat 4: Barnett xD folded before Flop
Seat 5: Delavegata (button) showed AcKc and won ($24.09) with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: Consulef (small blind) folded before Flop

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r0mx0   Slovakia. Oct 06 2014 00:22. Posts 1580

who plays AKs this way , fkin donks only + those fkin nl25 players never bluff rivers omg

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You gotta plow through that shit !  

TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 06 2014 00:51. Posts 20070

this is is a standard way to play AK if blinds are very aggresive

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

Gnarly   United States. Oct 06 2014 02:00. Posts 1723

he knows you're beat on the turn

Diversify or fossilize! 

Trav94   Canada. Oct 06 2014 02:19. Posts 1785

take a note and move on...


r0mx0   Slovakia. Oct 06 2014 02:20. Posts 1580

we i am doing better 3b 4b and gii AK always wont change it , once in my life i wanna have set here and own him

You gotta plow through that shit !  

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Oct 06 2014 05:27. Posts 6374

superstd flat pre...

ban baal 

lebowski   Greece. Oct 06 2014 08:28. Posts 9205


  On October 06 2014 04:27 dogmeat wrote:
superstd flat pre...

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

PoorUser    United States. Oct 06 2014 09:41. Posts 7471


  On October 06 2014 01:20 r0mx0 wrote:
we i am doing better 3b 4b and gii AK always wont change it , once in my life i wanna have set here and own him


you can also just own him by folding river...

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fira   United States. Oct 06 2014 10:08. Posts 6345

so many missed draws though, and our hand's a bit underrepped, i think play is fine. def some noteworthy stuff for villain (pre and on flop)


lebowski   Greece. Oct 06 2014 12:15. Posts 9205

^hero's play is fine given the price and no info but
if villain had 3bet AKs in these positions which is more rare nowadays I'd be more interested in making a note, also hero cbet flop just above halfpot, it would be nitty to fold in position even with no backdoors, what is it that makes this so noteworthy?
I'd take a note on his valuebet sizing

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

QuirkyEric   Slovakia. Oct 06 2014 12:20. Posts 308

i love lp

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r0mx0   Slovakia. Oct 06 2014 12:30. Posts 1580

nice that some agree with my play , well thats what i wanted to underrep my hand cause i have the board crushed right ? honetsly i thought he ll have JJ,QQ,TT ,99+ we pairs, TJs, QTs, 89,9T , hearts omg

You gotta plow through that shit !  

TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 06 2014 16:54. Posts 20070

betting turn is weaker and under repping your hand more, since you would 2 barrel 100% of your draws on this turn. By checking and calling you tell villian you have showdown value, and very often something that beats 8x.
If i was villian and I saw you CC this turn, I would start to pop you when you on the turn when you 2 barrel the scarecard. I think CCing here is very tough to balance and makes poker way harder then it needs to be

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

QuirkyEric   Slovakia. Oct 06 2014 17:14. Posts 308


  On October 06 2014 15:54 TalentedTom wrote:
betting turn is weaker and under repping your hand more, since you would 2 barrel 100% of your draws on this turn. By checking and calling you tell villian you have showdown value, and very often something that beats 8x.
If i was villian and I saw you CC this turn, I would start to pop you when you on the turn when you 2 barrel the scarecard. I think CCing here is very tough to balance and makes poker way harder then it needs to be


i love lp




  On October 06 2014 11:30 r0mx0 wrote:
nice that some agree with my play



  On October 05 2014 23:22 r0mx0 wrote:
those fkin nl25 players never bluff rivers omg



  On October 06 2014 01:20 r0mx0 wrote:
once in my life i wanna have set here and own him


lol i love lp :D :D

Je ti 31 let a umíš akorát klikat myší, vzpamatuj se -Daniel Havlík 

lebowski   Greece. Oct 06 2014 17:22. Posts 9205


  On October 06 2014 15:54 TalentedTom wrote:
betting turn is weaker and under repping your hand more, since you would 2 barrel 100% of your draws on this turn. By checking and calling you tell villian you have showdown value, and very often something that beats 8x.
If i was villian and I saw you CC this turn, I would start to pop you when you on the turn when you 2 barrel the scarecard. I think CCing here is very tough to balance and makes poker way harder then it needs to be


do you think it's bad to even have a c/c turn range on such a board?
Because if we ever have a c/c range this seems to me like the best hand to strengthen it with, given the added benefit that it could lead people to bluff flush rivers by never expecting a flush draw to c/c turn

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...Last edit: 06/10/2014 17:24

goose58   United States. Oct 06 2014 18:04. Posts 871

I'm betting the turn 90% of the time for the reasons Tom stated, although c/c is fine for the reasons you stated.

Once you c/c it's hard to fold this river for such a small bet even though you are right that most players at this stake don't bluff the river often enough.


TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 06 2014 18:05. Posts 20070

im not saying its bad* to have a CC range here, I'm just saying if were CCIng the times we hit Ax with a weak kicker (im guessing hero also CC's 99-KK here very often) on turns versus always betting our air (we are never CCIng air ex T9, JT 56, Q9hh etc..) then our betting range on this turn is very weak
Bet bet CC bricks is way more standard in these spots and will likely have a higher EV against majority of opponents

also a third point, people will peel EXTREMLEY wide in position because everyone these days is aware of the power of position, betting has a TON of EV, i wouldnt be surprised if people peel JTo (for exmaple) here twice at a very high frequency, hoping that you give up on the river, because your preceived 2barrel range is quite wide here

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the sameLast edit: 06/10/2014 18:09

TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 06 2014 21:11. Posts 20070

heres an example just 3 hands above this one:
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/1043099

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

 

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