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Handnr: 1040586
Submitted by : oldmemory

PokerStars Zoom Hand #120684901781: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2014/08/27 19:58:53 WET [2014/08/27 14:58:53 ET]
Table Hydra 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Oldmemor ($42.24 in chips)
Seat 2: tessary ($23.54 in chips)
Seat 3: runebol ($26.78 in chips)
Seat 4: freekster666 ($60.01 in chips)
Seat 5: Buschi041984 ($77.64 in chips)
Seat 6: VasiliyK09 ($25.35 in chips)
tessary: posts small blind $0.10
runebol: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Oldmemor 8h8d
freekster666: raises $0.37 to $0.62
Buschi041984: folds
VasiliyK09: folds
Oldmemor: raises $0.88 to $1.50
tessary: folds
runebol: folds
freekster666: calls $0.88

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $3.35)

   AhQhQc
freekster666: checks
Oldmemor: bets $1.60
freekster666: calls $1.60

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $6.55)

   AhQhQc8c
freekster666: checks
Oldmemor: bets $4.50
freekster666: calls $4.50

River (Pot : $15.55)

   AhQhQc8c6s
freekster666: checks
Oldmemor: bets $12
freekster666: raises $40.41 to $52.41 and is all-in
Oldmemor: calls $22.64 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($17.77) returned to freekster666

Showdown
freekster666: shows QdAd (a full house, Queens full of Aces)
Oldmemor: shows 8h8d (a full house, Eights full of Queens)
freekster666 collected $82.83 from pot

Summary
Total pot $84.83 | Rake $2
Board  AhQhQc8c6s
Seat 1: Oldmemor (button) showed 8h8d and lost with a full house, Eights full of Queens
Seat 2: tessary (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: runebol (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: freekster666 showed QdAd and won ($82.83) with a full house, Queens full of Aces
Seat 5: Buschi041984 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: VasiliyK09 folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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oldmemory   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2014 15:03. Posts 49

coolahr?

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Hoolz_1907   United Kingdom. Aug 27 2014 18:40. Posts 2791

Ehh not so sure, does he really ever do this with KQ/QJ/Q10? I think that's a c/c with those hands, c/r all-in wouldn't achieve much imo (i.e. fold worse get called by better). Floating oop twice and c/r river with complete air also seems very unlikely to me. Dunno, tough spot.

Look at his hand and equities, what do you expect him to have here, uno cards? - TianYuan 

lebowski   Greece. Aug 27 2014 18:50. Posts 9205

why do you 3bet preflop?

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

4TM   United States. Aug 27 2014 19:37. Posts 712

3bet pre is awful


traxamillion   United States. Aug 27 2014 20:11. Posts 10468

Flat pre.

3bet sizing too small


fira   United States. Aug 27 2014 20:59. Posts 6345

idk i think 3bet pre is fine, as is calling. sizing seems okay too, since we have position

seems like a cooler in general, i'm not folding river for that size


BlizzY   Slovakia. Aug 28 2014 03:00. Posts 805


  On August 27 2014 19:59 fira wrote:
idk i think 3bet pre is fine, as is calling. sizing seems okay too, since we have position

seems like a cooler in general, i'm not folding river for that size



Can you explain your logic for 3betting 88 BTN vs UTG if you think it is fine ? I was always curious to get a peak inside those minds that do it, just to understand what they think is the upside of it ? Is it 3b/fold or you just love setmining in 4b pots vs utg ?
What is your 3b percentage in these positions then, like 10% ?


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 28 2014 03:26. Posts 15163

I 3b fish that play wide range with 88 to this size pretty much exclusively this deep - isolating em IP is never a mistake
vs regs makes no sense

93% Sure! Last edit: 28/08/2014 03:27

fira   United States. Aug 28 2014 15:37. Posts 6345


  On August 28 2014 02:00 BlizzY wrote:
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Can you explain your logic for 3betting 88 BTN vs UTG if you think it is fine ? I was always curious to get a peak inside those minds that do it, just to understand what they think is the upside of it ? Is it 3b/fold or you just love setmining in 4b pots vs utg ?
What is your 3b percentage in these positions then, like 10% ?

the deeper it is the more i like it. i don't prefer it over calling, kinda depends on how villain reacts to playing OOP. if they are prone to 4betting (and stacks are less deep) i'm less prone to do it.

i guess i'd equate 3betting this to 3betting a hand like 98s. sort of a preflop semibluff/balance, makes it hard for his 99-QQ to play postflop and gets some preflop value from weaker hands. it also protects my preflop 3bet range on flops like 567 578 etc, i need some strong hands on those boards

 Last edit: 28/08/2014 15:43

 

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