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Handnr: 1039667
Submitted by : Eluflop

PokerStars Hand #119951632966: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2014/08/11 11:39:52 EET [2014/08/11 4:39:52 ET]
Table Mussorgskia 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: IdRatherCAll ($122.04 in chips)
Seat 2: phan_ngoc_tu ($133.49 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($100 in chips)
Seat 4: prominente ($141.91 in chips)
Seat 5: bazzUKa ($100 in chips)
Seat 6: usualkilla ($73.78 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $0.50
prominente: posts big blind $1

Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to Hero 8hAh
bazzUKa: folds
usualkilla: folds
IdRatherCAll: folds
phan_ngoc_tu: raises $2 to $3
Hero: raises $6 to $9
prominente: folds
phan_ngoc_tu: calls $6

Flop(Odds) (Pot : $19.00)

   7h8d3d
Hero: bets $10
phan_ngoc_tu: calls $10

Turn(Odds) (Pot : $39.00)

   7h8d3dKh
Hero: bets $19.36
phan_ngoc_tu: calls $19.36

River (Pot : $77.72)

   7h8d3dKh4c
Hero: checks
phan_ngoc_tu: bets $41.20
Hero: calls $41.20

Showdown
phan_ngoc_tu: shows 9d6d (high card King)
Hero: shows 8hAh (a pair of Eights)
Hero collected $157.32 from pot

Summary
Total pot $160.12 | Rake $2.80
Board  7h8d3dKh4c
Seat 1: IdRatherCAll folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: phan_ngoc_tu (button) showed 9d6d and lost with high card King
Seat 3: Hero (small blind) showed 8hAh and won ($157.32) with a pair of Eights
Seat 4: prominente (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: bazzUKa folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: usualkilla folded before Flop (didnt bet)

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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Aug 11 2014 05:29. Posts 15163

prolly a checking flop for me
wp tho

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ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Aug 11 2014 08:22. Posts 5070

I prefer a bet as giving him a free one when he v often has 2 overcards doesn't seem like a good plan. Can't believe villain didn't raise flop though

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Rapoza   Brasil. Aug 11 2014 10:05. Posts 1612

--- Nuked ---

Pouncer Style 4 the win 

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Aug 11 2014 10:45. Posts 9634


  On August 11 2014 07:22 ToT)MidiaN( wrote:
I prefer a bet as giving him a free one when he v often has 2 overcards doesn't seem like a good plan. Can't believe villain didn't raise flop though


what do we do if we cbet and villain raises the flop thought, we re in a really shitty spot then and its not like we re cbetting for value either and even if we do its not like we can get more than 1 str of value

 Last edit: 11/08/2014 10:47

ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Aug 12 2014 04:43. Posts 5070

A bet definitely is for value. I suspect we get 2 streets of value on quite a lot of run outs against his weaker 8x and his 7x hands. There's really not actually that many combinations in his range ahead of us on this flop as most of his bigger pocket pairs are likely to 4bet pre and he's going to have very few 2 pair combinations on this flop, so we're really probably only losing to 87s (2 combos), 33 (3 combos), 77-TT (Maybe +JJ, 16-22 combos) and prob ~4 combinations of combo draws that have a decent edge vs us, rest of his range we're flipping against (His combo draws with no overcards or his bare overcard flush draws) or we're well ahead of. If we face a raise it's going to depend on the opponent... maybe call, maybe fold depending on his sizing and how aggressively the villain raises flops in these spots, but it isn't going to happen very often so I wouldn't worry about it happening too often. Besides you can say the same if you take a check/call line, what do you do if he triple barrels? By betting we protect our hand, get value from hands that are going to pot control if we check and make the hand easier to play. If we check we get little to no value from hands like 44-66, 7x, we give free cards when he has stuff like QT or KQ which have 6 outs and often some other backdoors, we make life tough for ourself on a ton of turn and river combinations and we have no information about his range so we have no clue where we stand in the hand and are likely to make errors on the turn and river because of this. If I was check calling a hand here it'd be a less vulnerable hand, one much more comfortable facing multiple bets with on a wider variety of runouts, such as AA or Ad7d

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hopeLast edit: 12/08/2014 04:44

 

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