PokerStars Zoom Hand #115243016393: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2014/04/24 18:55:35 CET [2014/04/24 12:55:35 ET]
Table Hydra 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: ConnorM1888 ($25.25 in chips)
Seat 2: xehf3211 ($27.27 in chips)
Seat 3: blackdeuces1 ($33.23 in chips)
Seat 4: Bandi990 ($29.54 in chips)
Seat 5: kounelas12 ($17.57 in chips)
Seat 6: DoC.LemOn ($32.46 in chips)
xehf3211: posts small blind $0.10
blackdeuces1: posts big blind $0.25
Holecards(Odds)
Dealt to DoC.LemOn 
Bandi990: folds
kounelas12: raises $0.50 to $0.75
DoC.LemOn: calls $0.75
ConnorM1888: folds
xehf3211: folds
blackdeuces1: folds
Flop(Odds) (Pot : $1.85)
kounelas12: checks
DoC.LemOn: checks
Turn(Odds) (Pot : $1.85)
kounelas12: checks
DoC.LemOn: bets $1.25
kounelas12: calls $1.25
River (Pot : $4.35)
kounelas12: bets $4.15
DoC.LemOn: calls $4.15
Showdown
kounelas12: shows 
(a flush, Ace high)
DoC.LemOn: mucks hand
kounelas12 collected $12.08 from pot
Summary
Total pot $12.65 | Rake $0.57
Board
Seat 1: ConnorM1888 (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: xehf3211 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: blackdeuces1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Bandi990 folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 5: kounelas12 showed and won ($12.08) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: DoC.LemOn mucked
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Apr 24 2014 12:57. Posts 15163 | | |
meh I should bomb turn huge there even freaking overbet slightly like $2 ?
EDIT: Yeah I like $2 OTT
no hud zoom never played the dude
river I dunno was tempting to raise, he speed of light donked tho |
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| 93% Sure! | Last edit: 24/04/2014 13:02 |
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Mariuslol Norway. Apr 24 2014 13:14. Posts 4742 | | |
in these spots i bet way over pot on turn, but im awesome like that |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Apr 24 2014 13:16. Posts 15163 | | |
yeah Q isn't folding AJ and naked pairs should fold anyway and draws have a pair with em so will call too $2-$4 seems cool |
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| 93% Sure! | Last edit: 24/04/2014 13:16 |
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HotChip Iceland. Apr 24 2014 14:19. Posts 146 | | |
| | On April 24 2014 12:48 devon06atX wrote:
bet that flop |
why? Q is the only bad turn for us and we block that as well as having some showdown eq. |
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Why? Because he'll fold a bunch of shit = yaay we win.
And we show initiative. And we bloat the pot for when we hit.
Basically because I think it's a massively +ev play.
Stupid hypothetical - someone raises from cutoff, you call on button with j10hh, bb also calls. Flop comes q96, 2 hearts. Checked to you. Do you bet? I do. All day long.
Perhaps it doesn't relate, but it's how I look at poker.
Yep, I definitely bet this flop |
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Spitfiree Bulgaria. Apr 24 2014 15:50. Posts 9634 | | |
| | On April 24 2014 13:19 HotChip wrote:
why? Q is the only bad turn for us and we block that as well as having some showdown eq.
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how is that an argument to not bet? :O |
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HotChip Iceland. Apr 24 2014 17:06. Posts 146 | | |
@devon: In your example I def bet. That's because we have massive eq but no showdown value. In Lem's example we have a decent draw+overcards but only three kings will really make villain inclined to let us cooler him for his stack. Ks or 9x will not make villain stack off that easily.
I like checking because were often against a weaker ace, but if we are against a lower pair we have a LOT of outs.
An if were only looking at this range-wise. AQo is probably the stone cold bottom of lem's range. I would think he's not calling A9-2 there pre. I dont think hes calling suited connectors lower than 87s pre. Every other hand is a pair or AK. So range wise we should check because were at the bottom of our range.
@spitfire: Because our bet accomplishes many folds from hands we beat already but almost never folds out hands we cannot beat. |
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. Apr 24 2014 17:13. Posts 15163 | | |
I rly doubt flop matters bet and check are both fine |
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