LikeASet United States. Sep 06 2015 01:21. Posts 2113
U.S.A. bout to get stacked, we got about half of our country supporting this guy for presidential election.
All he does is yell out the word "jobs", blames everything on China, and then when it comes to immigration his plan is to build a wall along the border and deport all current illegal immigrants. He over simplifies every problem the U.S. has which helps create his appeal to the general U.S. population who don't like to apply critical thinking to any parts of their lives.
Bill O'Reilly asks him "Do you support gay marriage?"
Trump replies "No, I'm against it"
Bill: "Why"
Trump: "I don't know, I just don't feel good about it."
The fk?
Note: The show is on a right-wing conservative network, and the host is usually ignorant on many topics. When Trump is on, Bill seems like the voice of reason.
Nitewin United States. Sep 06 2015 02:14. Posts 1539
Old but still shows his brilliance. He's got the right idea on making USA a great nation. They may not be the highest EV decisions for the planet as a whole in the far future. But it's def the highest EV for USA in the near future. I agree that there are far greater problems than gay marriage and it's a non-issue relatively speaking. He doesn't give details on certain topics but then again, no president does. He's an aggressive leader with an entrepreneurial mind. What's not to like?
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PuertoRican United States. Sep 06 2015 02:21. Posts 13041
Trump is a smarter version of Bush Jr., which is worse for America.
He has a big mouth and he speaks how he feels and that's not the president America elects anymore
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MARSHALL28 United States. Sep 06 2015 03:47. Posts 1897
If you think Trump is a bad idea as president I think you are quite misinformed.
The country is in a really bad place. Moving towards what happened in Greece.
American politicians are extremely corrupt. Special interest groups literally have all the power in the US and the citizens have just about none. Trump is the only one who will not be controlled by the elite and their special interest groups as he is already rich and does not need their money. Therefore he's the only one who will actually be able to facilitate actual change.
It really bugs me when people hate on Trump because, like, have you not been paying attention to the shit hole the US has become? What makes you think another politician is going to be the answer to fix the problems? We've had so many politicians. No real change ever happens. Except them getting rich.
The thing is, it's all part of the elite's scheme to get people to focus on non-issues like gay marriage because they want to distract you to keep you from noticing all the evil shit they are doing.
If you are against Trump because he doesn't support gay marriage, I think you're priorities aren't in the right place.
NewbSaibot United States. Sep 06 2015 04:53. Posts 4943
On September 06 2015 02:47 MARSHALL28 wrote:
Trump is the only one who will not be controlled by the elite and their special interest groups as he is already rich and does not need their money.....................We've had so many politicians. No real change ever happens. Except them getting rich.
Do you see the problem here? You cant say Trump cares less about money than a politician when money has been Trump's only motivating driving force his entire life. I think a lot of America is in an "aw fuck it" phase right now. Politicians are pussies. While Trump certainly has the balls to run a business the way he see's fit, he'll only do so for his own self-interests. I dont think his interests align with the country, and literally all it will take is Sheldon Adelson to wire 1 billion dollars to Trumps personal checking account and it's over, he'll do whatever it asked of him. If it's one thing rich people have taught us it's that there's no such thing as being too rich. I think if party donations were forbidden Trump might actually be able to get shit done because he'd do whatever the fuck he wants, and we're all so jaded at this point we'd like to see someone accomplish something, anything, instead of the usual "negotiations" we get that just end in stale mate every time.
Right now no single President has outright failed in decades. If Trump takes office and completely drops the ball, starts WW3, wrecks economy, or vice versa, GOOD. At least then we can point the finger as an example of what not to do. Right now the country is split 50/50 along ideological grounds because it doesnt matter what president wins, they'll both be equally (un)productive.
bye now
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LikeASet United States. Sep 06 2015 05:04. Posts 2113
On September 06 2015 02:47 MARSHALL28 wrote:
If you think Trump is a bad idea as president I think you are quite misinformed.
The country is in a really bad place. Moving towards what happened in Greece.
American politicians are extremely corrupt. Special interest groups literally have all the power in the US and the citizens have just about none. Trump is the only one who will not be controlled by the elite and their special interest groups as he is already rich and does not need their money. Therefore he's the only one who will actually be able to facilitate actual change.
It really bugs me when people hate on Trump because, like, have you not been paying attention to the shit hole the US has become? What makes you think another politician is going to be the answer to fix the problems? We've had so many politicians. No real change ever happens. Except them getting rich.
The thing is, it's all part of the elite's scheme to get people to focus on non-issues like gay marriage because they want to distract you to keep you from noticing all the evil shit they are doing.
If you are against Trump because he doesn't support gay marriage, I think you're priorities aren't in the right place.
/rant
I don't think you watched the video, or any of the debate videos he had with other republicans.
I don't think you notice how he promises the world with any realistic plan on how to do so.
I don't support him because he said that he wants to invest even more into the military because he thinks our military is still not intimidating enough to the other countries. He wants to build an actual wall along the southern border which is going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars and there's no way you can effectively monitor 2'000 miles 24/7, 365 days a year. He wants to eliminate the minimum wage and have military stay in Iraq to claim the oil fields.
It's not that Trump is against gay marriage that bothers me so much, it's the argument or the lack of that he makes for his stances. You can't just deny people rights because oh you just don't feel good about it? And you think he's a compassionate guy that's going to fight for affordable health care and education?
This guy has never lived in reality, he inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his dad and used it to play around in the field of real estate. He owns casinos and golf courses, blames China for taking our jobs yet his own freakin clothing line has MADE IN CHINA all over it. He's not likely a Bill-Gates type 1%er who acquires massive wealth and then goes well I'm just going to retire and become a full-time philanthropist now. He's more likely that guy who wants to acquire more and more wealth nonstop so that he can own the most prestigious golf courses, and biggest casino in Vegas.
I could be wrong, and Trump could be a sincere and compassionate guy, but your belief that he has any kind of ground breaking ideas or is going to be the least corrupted is completely unfounded.
If i had to choose a republican it would be Rand Paul. If a I had to choose a democrat it would be Bernie Sanders.
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flounder44 United States. Sep 06 2015 05:07. Posts 916
tl:dw
Trump has my vote cuz he keeps it real
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LikeASet United States. Sep 06 2015 05:09. Posts 2113
On September 06 2015 02:47 MARSHALL28 wrote:
Trump is the only one who will not be controlled by the elite and their special interest groups as he is already rich and does not need their money.....................We've had so many politicians. No real change ever happens. Except them getting rich.
Right now the country is split 50/50 along ideological grounds because it doesnt matter what president wins, they'll both be equally (un)productive.
Depends on who controls the House and Senate and who is President. If you have a president and his/her team of people that come up with decent ideas and policies but the house/senate is controlled by the opposite party whose sole purpose is to not let you accomplish anything during the term no matter what then yep, little to no change is going to happen for another term.
Bernie Sanders addresses every problem trump addresses. The difference is that Bernie offers solutions that aren't 'strongarm the other country into giving us what we want'. Not that I necessarily think all his solutions are viable either, but seriously, Trump? Trump is like.. the very definition of a buffoon. I understand that decades of political incompetence makes you think a non-politician is what you need, but what you actually need is a competent polician - something Sanders has showcased himself as being for just as long as everyone else has been incompetent.
On September 06 2015 02:47 MARSHALL28 wrote:
If you think Trump is a bad idea as president I think you are quite misinformed.
The country is in a really bad place. Moving towards what happened in Greece.
American politicians are extremely corrupt. Special interest groups literally have all the power in the US and the citizens have just about none. Trump is the only one who will not be controlled by the elite and their special interest groups as he is already rich and does not need their money. Therefore he's the only one who will actually be able to facilitate actual change.
Yes because the multi billion dollar corporations and the people that run the Fed reserve wont be able to control Trump cause he s a billionaire ... how naive. I hope you do elect him so you lose your world power once and for all - will be well deserved.
Anyone that thinks Trump is a good idea has no idea when it comes to politics and is quite naive
Ron Paul had the ideology your country needed to establish itself as the dominant power however you guys chose Obama instead. He had ideology close to Trump's except he actually knew what the fuck he was talking about while Trump is purely an idiot that has no idea of international relations and politics
He'd be a pretty awful president. And doubt he has a chance to get elected with how polarizing he is.
But say what you will, his public speaking skills and dealing with pressure is really strong, I've watched the debate and a couple hours of interviews
He always steers the conversation to the points he has without even many actual facts or policies, and is really fun to watch.
So I hope he loses in the end, to pretty much anyone else
But that he gets to be the GOP candidate.
93% Sure!
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MARSHALL28 United States. Sep 06 2015 10:30. Posts 1897
On September 06 2015 02:47 MARSHALL28 wrote:
If you think Trump is a bad idea as president I think you are quite misinformed.
The country is in a really bad place. Moving towards what happened in Greece.
American politicians are extremely corrupt. Special interest groups literally have all the power in the US and the citizens have just about none. Trump is the only one who will not be controlled by the elite and their special interest groups as he is already rich and does not need their money. Therefore he's the only one who will actually be able to facilitate actual change.
It really bugs me when people hate on Trump because, like, have you not been paying attention to the shit hole the US has become? What makes you think another politician is going to be the answer to fix the problems? We've had so many politicians. No real change ever happens. Except them getting rich.
The thing is, it's all part of the elite's scheme to get people to focus on non-issues like gay marriage because they want to distract you to keep you from noticing all the evil shit they are doing.
If you are against Trump because he doesn't support gay marriage, I think you're priorities aren't in the right place.
/rant
I don't think you watched the video, or any of the debate videos he had with other republicans.
I don't think you notice how he promises the world with any realistic plan on how to do so.
I don't support him because he said that he wants to invest even more into the military because he thinks our military is still not intimidating enough to the other countries. He wants to build an actual wall along the southern border which is going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars and there's no way you can effectively monitor 2'000 miles 24/7, 365 days a year. He wants to eliminate the minimum wage and have military stay in Iraq to claim the oil fields.
It's not that Trump is against gay marriage that bothers me so much, it's the argument or the lack of that he makes for his stances. You can't just deny people rights because oh you just don't feel good about it? And you think he's a compassionate guy that's going to fight for affordable health care and education?
This guy has never lived in reality, he inherited hundreds of millions of dollars from his dad and used it to play around in the field of real estate. He owns casinos and golf courses, blames China for taking our jobs yet his own freakin clothing line has MADE IN CHINA all over it. He's not likely a Bill-Gates type 1%er who acquires massive wealth and then goes well I'm just going to retire and become a full-time philanthropist now. He's more likely that guy who wants to acquire more and more wealth nonstop so that he can own the most prestigious golf courses, and biggest casino in Vegas.
I could be wrong, and Trump could be a sincere and compassionate guy, but your belief that he has any kind of ground breaking ideas or is going to be the least corrupted is completely unfounded.
If i had to choose a republican it would be Rand Paul. If a I had to choose a democrat it would be Bernie Sanders.
Dude so much of this is incorrect. He didn't inherit shit from his Dad. I have actually watched every debate and probably 15 different Trump speeches along with every interview I could find on youtube.
I see a lot of defeatist attitude in these forums...
I don't really care if he's compassionate. I think he is living a pretty awesome life as it is and he does not need to be president. How does it benefit him to get made fun of constantly on television and to be hated on by so many random people who don't know shit about him? It's not to his benefit to run at all. He's lost money because he began running due to some of the things he's said. If you think this is about money for him I think you are missing the big picture. Seems like you had your mind made up before he opened his mouth even.
His net worth is like 9 billion dollars and you think for an extra one billion that he's going to throw everything he's said here away and ruin his entire reputation and name? This makes zero sense, sigh, I feel bad for the public who make these kinds of assumptions. Even if you're right, it's like you're just accepting defeat.
His plans seem pretty realistic to me. Make deals with other countries that are in our favor and add to our bottom line, cut out a lot of ridiculous unnecessary bureaucracy, use the money you just saved/made to do things that will perpetuate the country in the direction of gaining riches and protecting US citizens (things like building the wall).
I'm sorry this probably comes off a little strong but I literally think anyone who is in opposition of Trump is either incredibly ignorant or incredibly stupid.
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MARSHALL28 United States. Sep 06 2015 10:32. Posts 1897
On September 06 2015 02:47 MARSHALL28 wrote:
If you think Trump is a bad idea as president I think you are quite misinformed.
The country is in a really bad place. Moving towards what happened in Greece.
American politicians are extremely corrupt. Special interest groups literally have all the power in the US and the citizens have just about none. Trump is the only one who will not be controlled by the elite and their special interest groups as he is already rich and does not need their money. Therefore he's the only one who will actually be able to facilitate actual change.
Yes because the multi billion dollar corporations and the people that run the Fed reserve wont be able to control Trump cause he s a billionaire ... how naive. I hope you do elect him so you lose your world power once and for all - will be well deserved.
Anyone that thinks Trump is a good idea has no idea when it comes to politics and is quite naive
Ron Paul had the ideology your country needed to establish itself as the dominant power however you guys chose Obama instead. He had ideology close to Trump's except he actually knew what the fuck he was talking about while Trump is purely an idiot that has no idea of international relations and politics
I can't spend anymore time on these forums because of this kind of ridiculous discourse. You are seriously calling someone who has built an empire by himself and has become one of the richest men in the world a buffoon and purely an idiot?
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