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PanoRaMa   United States. May 05 2012 18:41. Posts 1655
Been playing a lot of 5/10 live lately to make up for the lack of online poker. It's been a pretty interesting transition that I'm still struggling with, but to start off here's my poorly produced graph from excel:


(x axis is sessions)

I'm avging an hourly of $60 right now that doesn't include commute (30 mins each way) and waitlisting. Really hoping I can bump it up to $100, which I'm not sure is sustainable or not, but that's my goal anyway. Was well on my way before the doomswong after session 12.

A quick list of things I'm struggling with, some of which are universal to live, and some characteristic of the LA casino I play at:
1. Dealing with Full Ring itself, coming from a largely 6max and HU background.

2. Dealing with people limping strong broadways, PPs up to TT, and occasionally the AA/KK l/rr from EP.

3. Dealing with people flatting big PPs pre, which makes their value range a lot wider than I give them credit for

4. Bluff frequencies and how they view which spots are good to bluff. This is obviously very player-dependent too but the size of the player pool at my casino makes it such that I don't develop deep history or understanding of any specific player. So occasionally some live reg will pull a bluff that I give too much credit for just because its, in my online-player mind, a suicidal bluff and thus he's probably nutted. It's a hard habit to shake.

5. I started buying in for the max at my stakes (150bbs), didn't like it because there aren't as many clueless, gambly fish as I expected. The majority of the player pool are loose passives and if deep stacks are ever getting in, its usually a cooler situation that I can be on the wrong side of. To reduce my risk of ruin I'm starting to play 100bbs, and 100bbs is obviously a stack size I'm very very comfortable with as an online player anyway. Good results so far from that switch.

I'd like to think I'm one of the best regulars at 5/10 based on online experience (there seem to be very few good online players playing this game regularly, though a few of them might be at higher stakes), but I feel like there are still some live intangibles that the live regs have over me, or it's just taking me too slow to adapt. Likely the biggest lesson I've learned (though I learned this some years ago when I was playing big live tourneys) is to not underestimate the live atmosphere. I don't think it's as easy as just being an online pro and coming in and schooling everyone, especially in a full ring setting, and there's definitely a learning curve involved.

There are some people MUCH more qualified than I to talk about live play like andrewsong cosmo myth rek etc. but if anyone has any questions about live play I can try my best to help answer

edit: oh man didn't know I was still a featured blog, haven't blogged in a year.

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mnj   United States. May 06 2012 00:20. Posts 3848

haha, i love your other blog, about start ups. it was a great blog to get introduced with new concepts.

anyway i too have transitioned from online poker to live (although i was never that good at online), and can relate to some of your struggles. there are fish who limp/call strong broadway hands and limp/fold alot of other hands, and it ALMOST makes me want to limp behind a hand like KJo (although i still prefer a raise)

glad you're still posting, you definitely are one of the more valued lp members


Mariuslol   Norway. May 06 2012 01:09. Posts 4742

Hey, I'm not much of a Live Pro, but I've played some from 100nl to 2000nl on stake each time it's holliday.

And I'm coaching a few 1-2 live people here and there. Maybe you have use for any of these links.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/...ll-ring/cotw-adjust-live-play-600893/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/170...ced-live-poker-strategy-guide-902936/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/170...leaning-house-live-1-2-2-5-nl-369739/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/27/...-guys-how-kill-live-yes-easy-1021276/



xD Oh, you should definitely talk concepts, strats, ideas with locoo, maybe for all to see, yay. xD

Owfh, the forum is still down till the 12th of may. Oh well, the links will probably work then.

 Last edit: 06/05/2012 01:10

PanoRaMa   United States. May 06 2012 01:45. Posts 1655

Thanks guys, I'll check out those links when I can Marius .

http://panorama.liquidpoker.net 

 



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